- From: Charles McCathieNevile <chaals@opera.com>
- Date: Thu, 06 Aug 2009 10:04:24 -0400
- To: "Chris Reeve" <chrisreeve15@yahoo.com>, "David Dorward" <david@dorward.me.uk>, "Phill Jenkins" <pjenkins@us.ibm.com>, "Patrick H. Lauke" <redux@splintered.co.uk>, "David Woolley" <forums@david-woolley.me.uk>, Richard_Userite <richard@userite.com>
- Cc: w3c-wai-ig@w3.org
On Thu, 06 Aug 2009 07:40:56 -0400, Chris Reeve <chrisreeve15@yahoo.com> wrote: > Can somebody make a recommendation to WCAG 2 that it should be the > responsibility of the developer's site that maintains downlodable file, > or one of the two sites (my site or the developers site)? Until about a year ago, you could have made the suggestion, and it would have been reviewed by the WCAG 2 group. WCAG 2 is now completed, but if you think there is a need for some further erratum or some input for a version 3 you can suggest it to them... (See the "Status of this Document" section at the top for how to provide feedback). cheers Chaals > --- On Thu, 8/6/09, Richard_Userite <richard@userite.com> wrote: > > > From: Richard_Userite <richard@userite.com> > Subject: Re: 2.4.4 Sample > To: "Chris Reeve" <chrisreeve15@yahoo.com>, "David Dorward" > <david@dorward.me.uk>, "Phill Jenkins" <pjenkins@us.ibm.com>, "Patrick > H. Lauke" <redux@splintered.co.uk>, "David Woolley" > <forums@david-woolley.me.uk> > Cc: w3c-wai-ig@w3.org > Date: Thursday, August 6, 2009, 9:24 AM > > > > > > Hi Chris. > Now that we know what you are trying to do the answer to your question > is straightforward. > ANSWER - You are responsible for the accessibility of your site, > therefore you are responsible for the quality of the link text on your > website. You must make sure that the purpose of any link (ie what > happens when the user selects the link) is clear to users. Exactly how > you do that is up to you and will depend upon different things for > diferent situations. There is no "magic bullet". WCAG suggests some > techniques that might help (they are suggestions) but in the end you > have to apply your knowledge of your target audience, look at the link > text and say to yourself - "does this make it clear what will happen > when the link is selected". Thus you are responsible for the quality of > the link on your site that goes - to - the IRS website, but only the IRS > is responsible for the quality of the links - on - that site. > I hope that this now concludes this topic. > Richard. > PS. I am happy to help, but only if requests come via the mail list. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Chris Reeve > To: David Dorward ; Phill Jenkins ; Patrick H. Lauke ; Richard_Userite ; > David Woolley > Cc: w3c-wai-ig@w3.org > Sent: Thursday, August 06, 2009 8:24 AM > Subject: 2.4.4 Sample > > > > > > > Scenario A: > If I had a link to > http://www.illinois.gov/gov/intopportunities.htm#dunn and my link title > was "State of Illonis - Pat Quinn, Governor". they already complied with > 2.4.4 for the requirement for downlodable material. > If I provide a link to this page who is responsible for 2.4.4? > > 1) Both ends (State of Illonis, IRS, and me) > 2) The site that maintains the documents (State of Illonis and > the IRS, but not me) > 3) At least one of the two sites (either my site or the end site) > Secnario B: Please take a look at http://www.irs.gov/ > None of their tax-foms comply with 2.4.4 > If I provide a link to the tax form, who is responsible for 2.4.4? > 1) Both ends (State of Illonis, and IRS, but not me) > 2) The site that maintains the documents (State of Illonis, and IRS, but > not me) > 3) At least one of the two sites (either my site or the end site) > Additionally, there are no downloable documents on my server. How does > this change things? > I never linked to the PDF, but only to the page that provides the PDF > (e.g. Pat Quinn's page provides a PDF to a 1 MB file and another > document that is 50 KB) > This way readers can see what they are downloading and how much time it > might take, based on the size. > Also, Google has a way of translating documents into text or html. > Because of the pressure of 2.4.4 to describe it, I have changed my > destination link to some html/text versions. > What difference does this make? > > > > -- Charles McCathieNevile Opera Software, Standards Group je parle français -- hablo español -- jeg lærer norsk http://my.opera.com/chaals Try Opera: http://www.opera.com
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