- From: David Woolley <forums@david-woolley.me.uk>
- Date: Sat, 21 Mar 2009 23:33:19 +0000
- To: 'Wai-Ig' <w3c-wai-ig@w3.org>
John Foliot - WATS.ca wrote: > > Recently I’ve come under attack (sometimes viscously and personally) * for daring to suggest that “fail” when writing HTML5 should have I think that is par for the course. > catastrophic consequences. The most recent incident involves my > exploration of what should constitute appropriate (and now mandatory) > fallback content for the <canvas> element. Brushing aside the personal > attacks by small and narrow minds, I’d like to explore and expand upon > my position a bit further. I'm afraid I have to agree with a lot of this. The original philosophy behind HTML and any suggestion that authors have a responsibility for correctness, are lost causes as far as the people responsible for the main stream competitors to IE. > > In other words, the HTML5 authors are attempting to turn a markup > language into a programming language. This is a fundamental shift, and > one worth thinking about. They want the ability to leverage the browser The name of the consortium that created HTML5, WHATWG (spelling?) is an abbreviation based on the phrase "web applications", so, yes, they are not primarily creating a document language, however commercial use of HTML on the public web has tended this way for a long time, with people essentially writing custom browsers in ECMAScript, because they consider using standard controls doesn't differentiate them enough. CSS is going in similar directions, with it becoming more and more difficult to argue against new features on the grounds that they encourage bad practice, and any suggestion that CSS only hints at styling being considered unreasonable. However, CSS, at least, never was about structure. I wrote a much longer piece on this about a year ago, so won't repeat myself here. Only on WAI list. I don't like cross-posting, and posting to the HTML5 lists will be counterproductive. -- David Woolley Emails are not formal business letters, whatever businesses may want. RFC1855 says there should be an address here, but, in a world of spam, that is no longer good advice, as archive address hiding may not work.
Received on Saturday, 21 March 2009 23:34:21 UTC