- From: Haileselassie, Antonio O. (HQ-LM020)[InDyne, Inc] <Antonio.O.Haileselassie@nasa.gov>
- Date: Mon, 24 Mar 2008 13:30:30 -0500
- To: "David Dorward" <david@dorward.me.uk>, <w3c-wai-ig@w3.org>
- Cc: "M. Urban" <m.urban@trilliumjazz.com>
Hmmm... that's interesting. I am not seeing the significant
accessibility concerns you are finding and am surprised that this would
be "one of the more inaccessible pages" you've seen in a while since
there are simply so many inaccessible sites out there.
Which sections did you find to be JavaScript dependant? Also, the form
elements I have come across that would require label tags have them.
There is the poll which could use a label tag, but employs the input's
"value" attribute instead.
Now, I have found that the calendar data table lacks a valid summary and
does not employ the use of the "scope" or "id" and "headers" attributes,
but, I fail to see where access is not possible.
I am certainly not defending the accessibility or inaccessibility of the
basic templates at this site, but perhaps I a missing something. I am
always open to new and valuable information. Thanks for pointing this
out.
Also, do you have alternate suggestions for more accessible templates?
Antonio O. HaileSelassie
-----Original Message-----
From: David Dorward [mailto:david@dorward.me.uk]
Sent: Monday, March 24, 2008 2:04 PM
To: w3c-wai-ig@w3.org
Cc: M. Urban; Haileselassie, Antonio O. (HQ-LM020)[InDyne, Inc]
Subject: Re: Template for Accessible Web Page
On 24 Mar 2008, at 17:34, Haileselassie, Antonio O. (HQ-LM020)
[InDyne, Inc] wrote:
> Here's a suggestion:
>
> http://www.adobe.com/resources/accessibility/dw8/dw_templates.html
I downloaded the first set of templates offered form this page, and
looked through the index.html file. I only gave it a cursory
examination, but a list of problems that I compiled in about five
minutes follows. I wouldn't call this template "accessible", far from
it, it is one of the more inaccessible pages I've seen for a while.
* The lynx test:
Noble,
Pennsylvania
Town of Noble,
Pennsylvania
* ABOUT
* [pipe.gif]
* MAYOR
* [pipe.gif]
* COUNCIL
* [pipe.gif]
* DEPARTMENTS
* [pipe.gif]
* EDUCATION
* [pipe.gif]
* HISTORY
* [pipe.gif]
*
CALENDAR
Quicklinks
[Select....................................>] [BUTTON]
That's a big failure.
* XHTML in a world with Internet Explorer
* Transitional (when the differences between Transitional and Strict
are tiny other that the addition of things which violate WCAG)
* No XML prolog (required if not UTF-8) but a claim that it is
ISO-8859-1
* Navigation implemented as a select element ... and dependant on
JavaScript
* JavaScript commented out. This was encouraged in HTML 4.x to
protect pre-HTML 3.2. In XML, however, it is an actual comment. This
causes the document to depend on being served as text/html rather
then application/xhtml+xml (which the specification says it SHOULD be
served as).
* Lack of label elements
* Invalid
* ASCII art used to separate list items ... no li elements in
evidence on some lists.
* ALL CAPS used instead of CSS. IIRC, this causes some screen readers
to spell the word out as an abbreviation.
--
David Dorward
http://dorward.me.uk/
http://blog.dorward.me.uk/
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