- From: Haileselassie, Antonio O. (HQ-LM020)[InDyne, Inc] <Antonio.O.Haileselassie@nasa.gov>
- Date: Mon, 24 Mar 2008 13:30:30 -0500
- To: "David Dorward" <david@dorward.me.uk>, <w3c-wai-ig@w3.org>
- Cc: "M. Urban" <m.urban@trilliumjazz.com>
Hmmm... that's interesting. I am not seeing the significant accessibility concerns you are finding and am surprised that this would be "one of the more inaccessible pages" you've seen in a while since there are simply so many inaccessible sites out there. Which sections did you find to be JavaScript dependant? Also, the form elements I have come across that would require label tags have them. There is the poll which could use a label tag, but employs the input's "value" attribute instead. Now, I have found that the calendar data table lacks a valid summary and does not employ the use of the "scope" or "id" and "headers" attributes, but, I fail to see where access is not possible. I am certainly not defending the accessibility or inaccessibility of the basic templates at this site, but perhaps I a missing something. I am always open to new and valuable information. Thanks for pointing this out. Also, do you have alternate suggestions for more accessible templates? Antonio O. HaileSelassie -----Original Message----- From: David Dorward [mailto:david@dorward.me.uk] Sent: Monday, March 24, 2008 2:04 PM To: w3c-wai-ig@w3.org Cc: M. Urban; Haileselassie, Antonio O. (HQ-LM020)[InDyne, Inc] Subject: Re: Template for Accessible Web Page On 24 Mar 2008, at 17:34, Haileselassie, Antonio O. (HQ-LM020) [InDyne, Inc] wrote: > Here's a suggestion: > > http://www.adobe.com/resources/accessibility/dw8/dw_templates.html I downloaded the first set of templates offered form this page, and looked through the index.html file. I only gave it a cursory examination, but a list of problems that I compiled in about five minutes follows. I wouldn't call this template "accessible", far from it, it is one of the more inaccessible pages I've seen for a while. * The lynx test: Noble, Pennsylvania Town of Noble, Pennsylvania * ABOUT * [pipe.gif] * MAYOR * [pipe.gif] * COUNCIL * [pipe.gif] * DEPARTMENTS * [pipe.gif] * EDUCATION * [pipe.gif] * HISTORY * [pipe.gif] * CALENDAR Quicklinks [Select....................................>] [BUTTON] That's a big failure. * XHTML in a world with Internet Explorer * Transitional (when the differences between Transitional and Strict are tiny other that the addition of things which violate WCAG) * No XML prolog (required if not UTF-8) but a claim that it is ISO-8859-1 * Navigation implemented as a select element ... and dependant on JavaScript * JavaScript commented out. This was encouraged in HTML 4.x to protect pre-HTML 3.2. In XML, however, it is an actual comment. This causes the document to depend on being served as text/html rather then application/xhtml+xml (which the specification says it SHOULD be served as). * Lack of label elements * Invalid * ASCII art used to separate list items ... no li elements in evidence on some lists. * ALL CAPS used instead of CSS. IIRC, this causes some screen readers to spell the word out as an abbreviation. -- David Dorward http://dorward.me.uk/ http://blog.dorward.me.uk/
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