WCAG 1.0 checkpoint 10.4

I've not a official solution, just a little tip...
I don't respect (in this case i think it's a backdated checkpoint) usually
this WCAG 1.0 checkpoint (above all for edit-boxes about blind people, that
are screen reader user, notice me in a test series that it's a matter for
them navigate in a page with these - they prefer navigate without them
'cause it's faster than if you respect checkpoint 10.4 - I define this
"real-accessibility").
About radio button instead: I usually don't respect checkpoint 10.4 'cause
(as in your example) isn't pratically useful do it.
I respect checkpoint 10.4 also when it's pratically useful (think about
situation in which you're asking nationality in a web application to pay
taxes in your country - basically 99% of users were born there and so it
could be really useful suggest one choice with a pre-selected
radiobutton..).
Hope it can help you :)
Have a good day



Sebastiano Nutarelli
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Hi all !

I have one question concerning the checkpoint 10.4 :
If you use forms : "Until user agents handle empty controls correctly,
include default, place-holding characters in edit boxes and text
areas."

It's quite easy to respect this checkpoint is I use drop down menu...

But how can I do if I use radio ou check button ? (for instance for
the gender choice, between, "man and woman")

I should do a choice by default, for instance "man" but it won't
ensure relevance of the data gathered (Indeed, I'm sure that a lot of
women won't change this, even if they will respond to my form).

Do you have any solution to my problem ?

Thanks.

Gautier