- From: Bailey, Bruce <Bruce.Bailey@ed.gov>
- Date: Mon, 23 May 2005 09:10:53 -0400
- To: "Antony Tennant" <antonytennant@yahoo.co.uk>, "David Woolley" <david@djwhome.demon.co.uk>
- Cc: <w3c-wai-ig@w3.org>
>> is it acceptable that the noframes content is merely >> an explanation that frames is required? Clearly from 1.1 and the technique documents, no. However, those asserting that 11.4 comes into play and therefore you need a frame-free parallel site are doing so without any authoritative reference. To these well intentioned folks, I ask: If a colleague asks you how to do X in MS Word, do you give them a lecture on Open Source or try to convince them to use HTML instead? I believe it is a disservice to present standards as requiring more than they do. I would also like to remind folks of our tradition (since the first days of the Web) that Single-A compliance can be achieved without altering the default graphical visual presentation. If a site owner asserts that frames or graphical text or something else are essential, we have no business arguing with them about that. >> Also as a side query, does anyone have any stats on >> browsers used that do not understand frames. > That's the wrong question. > I think you mean which browsers don't display frames as IE does. No, it's a good question. The WAI Techniques documents are all written from the perspective of a mythical browser that *discards* FRAME information and only exposes NOFRAME content. I find the approach that a text-only browser like Lynx uses to be superior because it gives one *both*. I wish the Mozilla lineage browsers did the same thing.
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