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Re: frames and no frames content

From: Access Systems <accessys@smart.net>
Date: Wed, 18 May 2005 09:16:03 -0400 (EDT)
To: Antony Tennant <antonytennant@yahoo.co.uk>
cc: w3c-wai-ig@w3.org
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.58.0505180913260.29037@smart.net>

On Wed, 18 May 2005, Antony Tennant wrote:

> I would like to canvass opinions on the requirement and use of noframes
> content. I have searched the archives but couldn't find any specific
> details.
>  If a section of a site (e.g an form, calculator etc) requires the use
> of frames due to the way it has been built, I understand the available
> markup to make the frameset meet W3C guidelines and that noframes
> content should included.
>  My question is: where frames are unavoidable due to technologies used,
> infrastructure etc, is it acceptable that the noframes content is merely
> an explanation that frames is required. Checking the W3C guidelines it

no!!  absolutely not!!  that is saying bluntly, "your not welcome here so
I won't even tell you what you are missing"

> merely states to use noframes content but doesnt indicate if this must
> be a version of the same content/functionality that doesnt rely on
> frames.
>  I appreciate that content/functionality should not rely on frames and
> it is easy to say "redevelop it so it doesnt use frames", but where
> there are other business factors that prevent this currently
> happenening, what should appear in the noframes content?

as much as is possible should be in the noframes content..
>  Also as a side query, does anyone have any stats on browsers used that
> do not understand frames.

most text browsers that I am aware of do not do frames. or don't do em


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