- From: <Kurt_Mattes@bankone.com>
- Date: Tue, 23 Mar 2004 07:11:57 -0500
- To: <tobias@inclusive.com>, <wai-ig@cookiecrook.com>, <w3c-wai-ig@w3.org>
Jim Tobias wrote... >What percentage of >consumers understand how to configure their browsers? I would guess less >than 5% of consumers with disabilities have the necessary information and >confidence. Is that their fault? If not, why should they be punished? What is so difficult about learning how to configure a browser, user agent or any other application? Yes it is the users fault, no designer or developer can put "...the necessary information..." into someone. If learning is the issue, teaching is the solution. I can write a book, but if you don't read it you will never learn what it contains. Is the author obliged to read it to you and make sure you understand? Or should all books be written in extremely simple language so even those with the lowest level of intellect can comprehend it? If a user, any user, does not understand something, it is their obligation to seek the necessary knowledge. It does not matter what it is, a kitchen appliance, toy, game, stereo, or web site, if you want to use it you must learn how. I think this is why directions, owner manuals and user guides exist. Gaining knowledge may not always be an enjoyable experience. The designer and developers obligation is to assure that when common web applications are used properly with or without accessibility assistance enabled, the information and interactivity of a site is available. Kurt Mattes Application Development Analyst-Lead Developer (302) 282-1414 Kurt_Mattes@bankone.com -----Original Message----- From: Jim Tobias [mailto:tobias@inclusive.com] Sent: Monday, March 22, 2004 3:37 PM To: 'James Craig'; w3c-wai-ig@w3.org Subject: RE: User Responsibility for Web Accessibility I have 2 conflicting philosophical responses to your excellent, provocative article: 1. Of course it's the user's responsibilitiy, once the designer has discharged his/her accessibility duties. That's why the phrase "until user agents can..." is used. How can it be right to hold a designer hostage to certain technologies merely preferred by some users, if suitable alternatives exist? Looking at the issue economically, there is a set of costs for backward compatibility. If a "backward" user agent still exists, but is used by only a handful of people who all could use something else, the accessibility cost per user becomes too high to justify. (This is especially true if we assume that only so much money will be spent on accessibility overall. Then every euro spent on "unnecessary" backward compatibility prevents other accessibility improvements that may serve the same people better, or serve many more people.) 2. Of course it's not the user's responsibility! Many of the accessibility settings in today's user agents are not defaults. What percentage of consumers understand how to configure their browsers? I would guess less than 5% of consumers with disabilities have the necessary information and confidence. Is that their fault? If not, why should they be punished? I'm not sure you will gain anything useful for your update, but I think such points are important to consider. Let me thank you again for allowing us to raise our eyes from the everyday technical tasks to a larger arena. ***** Jim Tobias Inclusive Technologies tobias@inclusive.com 732.441.0831 v/tty www.inclusive.com > -----Original Message----- > From: w3c-wai-ig-request@w3.org > [mailto:w3c-wai-ig-request@w3.org] On Behalf Of James Craig > Sent: Monday, March 22, 2004 12:17 PM > To: w3c-wai-ig@w3.org > Subject: User Responsibility for Web Accessibility > > > > I am about to post a follow-up to a topic brought up in our > SXSW panel, > but I wanted to get some more feedback, first. Any thoughts? > > User Responsibility for Web Accessibility: > <http://cookiecrook.com/sxsw/2004/demo/> > > Thanks in advance, > James Craig > > -- > http://cookiecrook.com/ > ********************************************************************** This transmission may contain information that is privileged, confidential and/or exempt from disclosure under applicable law. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, copying, distribution, or use of the information contained herein (including any reliance thereon) is STRICTLY PROHIBITED. If you received this transmission in error, please immediately contact the sender and destroy the material in its entirety, whether in electronic or hard copy format. Thank you **********************************************************************
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