- From: Andrew Kirkpatrick <andrew_kirkpatrick@wgbh.org>
- Date: Tue, 18 May 2004 15:04:58 -0400
- To: Jim Thatcher <jim@jimthatcher.com>, "'Stephani Roberts Lincoln'" <stephani@mit.edu>, w3c-wai-ig@w3.org
Jim, Your results are correct, but you're generalizing a little. visibility:hidden and display:none do hide the content, but not when applied in all possible ways. You can apply these styles in the <style> element, inline, or in an external stylesheet. The external stylesheet can be referenced via the link element or using @import. The results are not the same. I have done a set of tests (am missing some data on HPR 3.02). My test file is at: http://www.webaccessibility.info/lab/displaytest.html AWK On 5/18/04 12:25 PM, "Jim Thatcher" <jim@jimthatcher.com> wrote: > > Hi Steph, > > I am using JAWS 4.51 and for me visibility:hidden hides the text from JAWS. > Visibility:none is not valid style but display:none is. Display:none hides > the text from JAWS for me. Both Visibility:hidden and display:none hide the > text from both Window-Eyes (4.5) and HPR (3.02) as well. My test file is > http://jimthatcher.com/test/visibility.htm. Bottom line, both > visibility:hidden and display:none hide JAWS, Window-Eyes, and HPR on my > machine. > > Jim > Accessibility, What Not to do: http://jimthatcher.com/whatnot.htm. > Web Accessibility Tutorial: http://jimthatcher.com/webcourse1.htm. > > > -----Original Message----- > From: w3c-wai-ig-request@w3.org [mailto:w3c-wai-ig-request@w3.org] On Behalf > Of Stephani Roberts Lincoln > Sent: Tuesday, May 18, 2004 10:52 AM > To: 'WAI-IG' > Subject: RE: "Blind for a Day" - visibility: hidden vs none > > > Hi, > > Related to some comments here and screen readers response to visibility: > none. With JAWS visibility:hidden works to hide text from the browser > display while the screen reader picks up the text and voices it (not true > of visibility:none). Can anyone tell me if this true for IBM HPR and Window > Eyes? > > thanks, > Steph > > > At 07:11 PM 5/17/2004 -0500, Jim Thatcher wrote: > >> Joe, >> >> It has nothing to do with verbosity settings. His recommendations are >> absolutely right on; every one. He did mention putting main content near > the >> top because "the thing I hated the most was having to blast past five >> hundred links in a sidebar in order to get to the actual content." I am >> impressed with how well this guy understood the problems of listening to > web >> content. Very unusual. >> >> Jim >> Accessibility, What Not to do: http://jimthatcher.com/whatnot.htm. >> Web Accessibility Tutorial: http://jimthatcher.com/webcourse1.htm. >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: w3c-wai-ig-request@w3.org [mailto:w3c-wai-ig-request@w3.org] On > Behalf >> Of Joe Clark >> Sent: Monday, May 17, 2004 1:36 PM >> To: WAI-IG >> Subject: "Blind for a Day" >> >> >> Bloggeur tries out IBM Home Page Reader and shares tips. He should >> learn about verbosity settings, though. >> >> <http://www.mojombo.com/archives/000034.html> >> -- >> >> Joe Clark | joeclark@joeclark.org | <http://joeclark.org/access/> >> Author, _Building Accessible Websites_ | <http://joeclark.org/book/> >> Expect criticism if you top-post > > > >
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