- From: Tina Holmboe <tina@greytower.net>
- Date: Wed, 14 Apr 2004 14:11:04 +0200 (CEST)
- To: w3c-wai-ig@w3.org
On 14 Apr, Julian Voelcker wrote: > I forgot to mention, this was one of the points being stressed in the > interview - you need to get sites checked by people with disabilities > and cannot rely solely on the automatic systems. I've heard this argument before, and I still don't agree with it. I fail, you see, to understand where you'll get the *extraordinary* amount of people needed to cover all the various groups and accessibility issues. Mr. Brown, the old butcher who has just begun to use computers despite his old age and low vision, has quite different issues than Ms. Blue who, despite being blind, has grown up with 'puters of the latest mark all her life. Mrs. Wazi the local laywer from India with her university degree but a touch of twiching that makes using the mouse difficult has yet other issues than old Mr. Khaali who has perfect vision but isn't too good with English and really would like some help with all the abbreviations. In other words, an elderly immigrant with low vision have different problems in accessing information than has a young, blind, "native" citizen. This, for instance, can clearly be seen by the way some suggest that non-latin scripts should be implemented as graphical images because Unicode is "unreliable"[*]. You also need more than one tester from each group so as to smooth out any variations due to personal preference and idiocyncrasies. You will also have to use the *same* testers for *every* website, in particular when testing a large number of sites in a certain area, say local government, so that you avoid having different testers having different personal preferences and different personal views - they are, after all, not testing compliance against guidelines, but how well the site works for *them* - not anyone else. Consider this. We don't maintain building codes. Instead, we test new architectural designs with disabled people. In short, we have a fellow in a wheelchair drive through the doors and see if they are wide enough. Grand, that. It was indeed wide enough . Then we build the place, and along comes old Mr. Smith in his trusty old, and specially built, Permobil which happens to be about twice the width of the modern Chairman 2 Corpus used by the tester. This far we've not even *touched* upon the problem of whether to let a tester use his/her *own* setup/system which he/she is accustomed to, OR whether to let them use YOUR system which they ain't - and how *that* will impact the result ... The reason why we have, and agree upon, guidelines can in my view be summed up as this. * We cannot test everything using automated systems. It's impossible, even if people claim it isn't. * We cannot test everyone for everything. Still not possible, either in practical or economical terms. * So we do the best we can. We get together, we agree on guidelines, we ask those most impacted, and we make the guidelines both general and specific. Then we revise, take other issues into regard. * And finally we test against the guidelines using automated tools and people who are experts in testing. Whether they are disabled or not doesn't really matter; what *matters* is that they are able to be objective, perform the same tests time and time again[**], and that they are given solid guidelines. 'tis not much different from any other area. You can't test-crash a new car model with every conceivable size and shape human being; so we make guidelines for the manufacturers to follow. It does also help if everyone and his grandmother would stop trying to bloody re-interpret said guidelines to fit their own personal or political agenda. But I won't hold my breath on that one. [*] NOT my advise, no. I'm still trying to find out which "programs" the users probably don't have after being told one should use images of, say, Devangari text instead of Unicode. [**] The ability to survive boredom helps. -- - Tina Holmboe Greytower Technologies tina@greytower.net http://www.greytower.net/ [+46] 0708 557 905
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