- From: Charles McCathieNevile <charles@sidar.org>
- Date: Wed, 13 Aug 2003 12:53:05 +1000
- To: Joe Clark <joeclark@joeclark.org>
- Cc: WAI-IG <w3c-wai-ig@w3.org>
- Message-Id: <431D71D1-CD39-11D7-AC50-000A958826AA@sidar.org>
This guy wrote, in July, alt="" may pass the W3C Validator , but is still isn’t accessible. and I doubt there are any screen readers out there that grock MathML I have no doubt that he is a smart guy, but he seems to be less than an expert on accessibility. True, lynx doesn't handle MathML. Nor is it useful for chemistry or music. It handles documents of the kind that can be sensibly encoded in HTML. It doesn't even handle XML in general, which is readily used for specific document types (invoices, particular types of company document, etc), let alone something as specialised as mathematics. Actually, it seems he is right that MathML is the sensible way to encode maths, and there are several ways of accessing it through speech. One is to use an XSLT to transform it to TeX/LaTeX and use Aster to read that. Another is to use IBM's Techexplorer (a browser designed specifically for this type of content), which can provide speech output through ViaVoice. Another is to use a math-processing program such as mathematica with a screen reader. The real difficulty turns out to be in producing braille. There are a number of people doing this around the world, wrestling with the differences in braille usage (because originally standardisation didn't seem that important), and making steady progress. On the other hand, MathML lends itself to production of diagrams, etc. using common math processing tools - learning to recognise a curve that makes sense for an equation no longer involves the hours of hand-plotting points that I had to do as a kid, in much the same way as understanding logarithmic tables is no longer necessary for many real-world applications, since calculators are cheaper and more accurate. Specific to accessibility of mathematics for blind people, a new list has just been created - there is an announcement to the blinux list which is archived at http://www.redhat.com/archives/blinux-list/2003-August/msg00218.html and the home page for the group itself is at http://www.smartgroups.com/groups/BlindMath cheers Chaals On Wednesday, Aug 13, 2003, at 06:38 Australia/Canberra, Joe Clark wrote: > > <http://golem.ph.utexas.edu/~distler/blog/archives/000199.html> > > <quoth> > MathML and Accessibility > > [...] > > So right now, the recommendation to use MathML for accessibility is > just ... wishful thinking. I'm using it because it's the only > sensible > was to put math on the web. But accessible? Not for the foreseeable > future. > </quoth> > > And you ain't seen nothin' yet till you've looked at a MathML page in > Lynx. Cf. > <http://golem.ph.utexas.edu/~distler/blog/archives/000193.html>. > > -- Charles McCathieNevile Fundación Sidar charles@sidar.org http://www.sidar.org
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