- From: Joe Clark <joeclark@joeclark.org>
- Date: Mon, 14 Jul 2003 22:26:35 -0400
- To: WAI-IG <w3c-wai-ig@w3.org>, uvip-web-test@yahoogroups.com
Fahrner Image Replacement, named after Todd Fahrner (but apparently
invented by C.Z. Robertson), is a standards-compliant technique that
uses stylesheets to provide a visible image, usually of
nicely-typeset words, that is backed up by marked-up plain text. All
the hip kids are using it.
<http://www.stopdesign.com/articles/css/replace-text/>
<http://rtnl.org.uk/words/19990709-site_updates.shtml>
<http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/w3c-wai-ig/2003JanMar/0870.html>
Back in March, I had people try FIR in Window-Eyes and Home Page
Reader, and two of the test pages at
<http://www.stopdesign.com/log/default.asp?date=20030314> read
correctly. I suppose it is a problem that all three did not.
There is, however, the problem that screen readers are yoked to
visual browsers and inherit their stylesheet interpretations.
{display: none} really means {display: none}, and the treatment of
visibility: hidden is unclear.
The result?
One correspondent, using HPR on his machine, says that text marked up
as FIR disappears completely because it isn't an img element with
alt; also, {display: none} takes it out of the reading order
altogether.
You can test this on my new, all-CSS page for Ten Years Ago in _Spy_,
fixed up by Matt Mullenweg:
<http://www.fawny.org/spy/?FIR>
<http://photomatt.net/p722>
WHAT I NEED:
I need people to throw every screen reader they've got at that simple
page <http://www.fawny.org/spy/?FIR> and see if you can read the text
embedded in graphics. There are two separate blocks, and I'm not
gonna tell you what they say-- the purpose is to see if you can read
them.
Use all screen readers you have, *especially Jaws*, though I doubt
anyone from Freedom Scientific would bother looking into this.
Report back to me and I will summarize to the lists.
If this technique is really not working, then the most advanced
standards-compliant sites designed by the most conscientious people
at work today have a serious problem-- one of the problems they were
going very much out of their way to avoid.
--
Joe Clark | joeclark@joeclark.org
Accessibility <http://joeclark.org/access/>
Author, _Building Accessible Websites_
<http://joeclark.org/book/>
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