- From: Charles McCathieNevile <charles@sidar.org>
- Date: Wed, 19 Feb 2003 15:49:02 +1100
- To: Jonathan Chetwynd <j.chetwynd@btinternet.com>
- Cc: "Webmaster@EDD" <web@edd.ca.gov>, w3c-wai-ig@w3.org
Unfortunately I don't know of a radio station that produces content for the deaf community, although I hope some do. It has been seriously suggested in the WCAG group that Internet radio should be allowed to claim that they conform to accessibility guidelines despite completely failing to serve the needs of the Deaf community. I hope this doesn't happen - there may be grounds for exempting them from legal requirements in some policy frameworks, but to say they are accessible is simply wrong. I prefer my news read by a newscaster I know, but I also prefer to have a drink with him, and that reduces the amount of time he has for recording all the material I want to listen to. In that case I prefer to listen to a high-quality voice on my machine. Living on a modem connection as I do, recorded audio of equivalent quality takes too long to download and the bandwidth doesn't allow for reliable and comprehensible streaming. Correct me if I am wrong, but I believe all your students prefer recorded audio to generated audio, and that they all have a cognitive disability. I realise that there are other users of your site in the wide world who have a visual disability and no known cognitive disability. For people who use screen readers, recorded audio is often an inconvenience. For people who find high-quality audio helpful, screen readers are often too expensive or too difficult to set up (there are four or five available in linux, and you can get distributions of linux that come preconfigured with screenreaders, free, but they currently tend to work in line-mode. The work on GNOME and Mozilla accessibility (largely funded by Sun, I believe) holds a lot of promise for free graphical and speaking systems. WebSound, which has been hidden for some time but I believe is about to reappear, was a very good step towards a better solution. Currently we have a genuine conflict in the needs of people. A possibility in the short term is to use a system like Annotea that provides pointers to audio versions of content for people who want them, and can be installed as a plugin to browsers (there are annotea clients available for IE, Mozilla, Amaya, command-line systems, and servers available for virtually any system). I believe the answer lies in better development of technology, not in recording everything. One of the areas that is not currently easy, but should be in a few years, is to have better control over whether you use your local speech synthesis or get a high-quality version from somewhere else, and another is the ability to sythesise a particular person's voice (more or less...). cheers Chaals On Wednesday, Feb 19, 2003, at 06:46 Australia/Melbourne, Jonathan Chetwynd wrote: > I'm not sure what you have in mind, but plenty of people enjoy > listening to the radio, via the internet, and this must include the > visually impaired. > presumably some stations write their content for the deaf community. > Would you prefer your news read by a newscaster you know or a machine? > > Many of our users have a visual impairment, and may also have a > cognitive one. > Our students undoubtedly prefer recorded audio at the present time, as > do children. > Ours have experience of listening and understanding human speech > impediments. > Children don't, in the main. > > It remains true that screen readers may appear to offer convenience, > if you have the funds available, the ability to configure and use one, > and the intelligence to understand what is being read. > In any other case an alternative solution may be preferable. > -- Charles McCathieNevile charles@sidar.org Fundación SIDAR http://www.sidar.org
Received on Tuesday, 18 February 2003 23:48:57 UTC