- From: John Foliot - bytown internet <foliot@bytowninternet.com>
- Date: Tue, 21 Jan 2003 08:11:29 -0500
- To: <w3c-wai-ig@w3.org>
Yup, I further get a chuckle when I'm told that the ALT TEXT "tool tip" provides contextual information when the user mouses over the image (etc.). Never mind that not everyone uses a mouse, as Jonathan has pointed out, but the latest versions of Netscape/Mozilla DO NOT produce "tool tips" via the alt text. This behaviour only "appears" if you use the Title element. (The look on their faces was, well, I won't be mean...) I support Chaas' statement regarding conformance to Standards: > so in my opinion pushing for conformance to UAAG, and making it easy to > upgrade browsers, is more effective than trying to create yet another > standard that does the same thing but isn't implemented. HTML is a structural markup language and NOT a desktop publishing medium. Insisting that the code/standards/browser should do this that or the other is unrealistic (IMVHO) and contrary to the intent (and spirit) of the language/code. I appreciate that it has become a defacto communication method which crosses large swaths of our society, but again as Chaas so elequently stated, using screwdrivers to remove screws from wood is preferable to pliers (or a crow-bar). HTML/XHTML/XML is not the way to achieve browser behaviour, and should never be so. These markup languages should be used as intended, to apply structural logic to a document's contents... nothing more, nothing less. CSS for "pretty", SMIL for multi-media, SVG for graphical control (I cannot claim any experience here), etc. - the point is, the right tool for the appropriate job. Just my $0.02 worth. JF > -----Original Message----- > From: w3c-wai-ig-request@w3.org [mailto:w3c-wai-ig-request@w3.org]On > Behalf Of David Woolley > Sent: Tuesday, January 21, 2003 2:03 AM > To: w3c-wai-ig@w3.org > Subject: Re: tooltip onfocus > > > > > *I had not realised that tooltip onmouseover is not a w3c standard for > > visual browsers, though was aware that opera behaved somewhat > > Tooltips are not a W3C standard. They just happen to be how Microsoft > chose to implement alt attributes initially, and then title, using an > existing user interface concept, designed for a very different purpose > for alt and for a slightly different one for title. > > Most commercial designers seem to think that alt means tooltip, rather > than alternative text. For them, though a tooltip tends to be be an > instruction, rather than simply an explanation, as title should be. > >
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