- From: David Woolley <david@djwhome.demon.co.uk>
- Date: Sat, 18 Jan 2003 10:38:09 +0000 (GMT)
- To: w3c-wai-ig@w3.org
> Nick, what do you mean "deprecated?" Frameset and frame are not > deprecated. There appear to be folks on this list that wish they were - > but not what I read in http://www.w3.org/TR/html401/. I think that there is a lot of weasel wording associated with frames and windowing, but although frames are not actually labelled as deprecated, they are in part of the DTD that otherwise differs from the strict DTD by having all the deprecated features and which authors were (5 years ago) encouraged to stop using as soon as CSS support became widespread. One original argument was that you couldn't deprecate a feature in the same document in which you first introduced it. To me it has all the characteristics of being deprecated, except for actually be labelled as such. There is an issue with their not being an XHTL 1.1 Transitional document. The frames and windows lobby within W3C (from public statements) currently claims that this doesn't represent the final demise of framing and targetting, but rather that the transitional version of XHTML 1.1 would have been exactly the same as XHTML 1.0 Transitional, so there was no need to write one. Note that that lobby is proposing framing and windowing (separate) modules for XHTML, that are not backwards compatible, but do attempt to address some of the issues to do with the inability to link to frames pages other than the initial frameset contents.
Received on Saturday, 18 January 2003 06:48:34 UTC