- From: philip steven lanier <planier@u.washington.edu>
- Date: Wed, 15 Jan 2003 12:44:15 -0800 (PST)
- cc: w3c-wai-ig@w3.org
Johnathan, A couple points: 1) I am not at all surprised that the videos on the DO-IT site assume a somewhat greater ability than the population you are describing. Keep in mind the audience for the videos. I would assume that there are very few individuals at the university level who have severe learning disabilities. 2) To quote: > "To imagine the problems facing switch users consider typing an email, > that's 26 clicks for every letter or say 100 per word..." Most systems that use a switch (aside from those that use morse code), usually rely on scanning. This typically employs a "divide and conquer" strategy to select keys on the keyboard: A moving cursor highlights different parts of the keyboard, and as the user selects these, the area of focus gets incresingly narrower until the user selects the key he/she wants. This means that the user often has to click 2-4 times per letter (as opposed to 26 times), and the selection moves perhaps 5-10 times. (This is a rough guess, if anybody cares to correct me.) Not to say that this is at all easy or efficient, but I don't think it's accurate to say that the typical switch user must click 26 times per letter. > "(predictive software could possibly help a little, though users might > have problems selecting words that were unfamiliar) now imagine you also > have a physical and or cognitive impairment." In my experience, predictive software can help *significantly* for many switch users. The one case where it may not help, as you alluded to, is the case where the user does not understand how to use the word prediction software. (I.e. the software is too complex for the user to learn.) 3) The issues with the sites you discuss are perhaps slightly more complex. For one, I think the BBC site has some major *usability* issues. Accessibility issues aside, other than for site indexes, a page with 160 links is rarely ideal. The BBC site also has some major linearization issues (associated with the incorrect use of tables for layout). The other site you discuss (peepo.com) is very unique in that it is *specifically* for online radio listeners who have severe learning difficulties and who use switches. In fact, for most other audiences, the site would be very unusable, and for many people with disabilities it would also have accessibility problems. In this regard, I think it could be useful to differentiate between a site such as this and another general site that is "regularly check[ed]... for 'switch' accessibility." In any case, I do recognize that your ultimate question/issue was that "a switch site has been asked for" and you are considering how best to develop this. Unfortunatly, I do not have the answer. I did want to try to clear a few things up, however. I also hope that the links I provided were helpful to those who had no idea what switches are and how they're used. I will be looking forward to hearing what suggestions others have regarding a site specifically for switch users, and I am also looking forward to seeing what solution(s) you come up with. Keep us informed! Philip Lanier University of Washington Senior, Informatics On Wed, 15 Jan 2003, Jonathan Chetwynd wrote: > > Philip & Jukka, > > Our users* have severe learning difficulties. The video: 'Working > Together: Computers and People with Learning Disabilities' > http://www.washington.edu/doit/Video/wt_learn.html assumes a somewhat > greater ability. This applies to the other resources I viewed on the > Washington University site. > > To imagine the problems facing switch users consider typing an email, > that's 26 clicks for every letter or say 100 per word, (predictive > software could possibly help a little, though users might have problems > selecting words that were unfamiliar ) now imagine you also have a > physical and or cognitive impairment. > > The BBC radio site: http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio/ has 160 links, last > time I counted, think on this. try it out using a tab switch. > Now visit http://www.peepo.com/alfy/radio/b.html type a letter, or tab > through the alphabet. potentially 260 radio stations within 46 clicks. > Can someone else improve on this? > > The web currently offers very little for this community, and very few > every get paid employment. > We are still a very long way from enabling people with severe learning > difficulties using (adaptive) technology. > > thanks > > Jonathan > > *many of our users respond to concrete symbols, ie TV, microwave...most > recognise photographs of people they know(of) telling the time is a > significant achievement, as would 'simple' addition be, some follow > soaps, and many have special interests about which they know much. We > do have a few users who can read plain simple English in a ~20pt font, > and we intend to add the option of a text label to links at > http://www.peepo.com, this only allows 5 or 6 letters so has its own > problems. If you mouse over there is a tooltip, and the font size can > be set much larger. > > A switch site has been asked for, and we are considering how best to > develop this...... > >
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