- From: Kynn Bartlett <kynn@idyllmtn.com>
- Date: Thu, 26 Jun 2003 13:18:35 -0700
- To: "Tim Roberts" <tim@wiseguysonly.com>
- Cc: Masayasu Ishikawa <mimasa@w3.org>, w3c-wai-ig@w3.org
On Thursday, June 26, 2003, at 09:46 AM, Tim Roberts wrote:
> How can they be losing presumed accessibility benefits if the document
> is:
>
> Well structured, with style seperated from content.
That's not an advantage of XHTML over HTML. (An HTML 4.01 could very
well separate content from presentation.)
> Equipped to apply any of the operations that could be applied to XML
> on the
> server side to accommodate alternative browsing devices.
Except that if something is sent as text/html -- and not as
application/xhtml+xml -- what justification is there for using
XML tools on it? It's just HTML, right? Even if you coded it
as XHTML...
(You'd have to make a bad assumption, and then be prepared to handle
SGML-based HTML if you're accepting text/html and assuming it's
XML -- so you lose the benefits of XHTML here.)
> Possibly lighter on bandwidth if CSS/XHTML combination is used
> correctly.
No, there's nothing about XHTML+CSS that makes it lighter on bandwidth
than HTML+CSS. In fact, XHTML is often going to be slightly "heavier"
than HTML:
<br> four characters
<br /> six characters
> It seems like occasionally this discussion is veering towards an
> anti-XHTML
> stance just for the sake of it.
Um, nope. I'm trying to make several points here:
1. The "benefits of XHTML" presented are generally just the
benefits of XHTML _or_ HTML (such as your "separation of
content and presentation" argument). In these cases,
XHTML and HTML are equal.
2. There are a number of complications with using XHTML
(such as the mimetype and the possibility of poorly formed
documents breaking entirely) which are not well-known even
to proponents of XHTML.
3. Thus, XHTML 1.0 may actually be a less reasonable choice than
HTML 4.01 for general use on the Web. It certainly is not
a slam dunk that XHTML is superior.
The notion that XHTML is boon to accessibility has to be carefully
considered. Many will take it for granted because it's the
latest-and-greatest; it may be the latest, but when it comes to
accessibility considerations, it's not necessarily the "greatest."
Does that make me "anti-XHTML for the sake of it?" Gosh, I hope
not.
--Kynn
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