- From: <tina@greytower.net>
- Date: Sat, 14 Jun 2003 02:49:26 +0200 (CEST)
- To: w3c-wai-ig@w3.org
On 13 Jun, Kynn Bartlett wrote >> is presentational markup ? Could you please refer to the relevant >> sections of the HTML specification stating that internal links are >> presentational and only applies for one specific media type ? > > It's not structural, and it introduces a link for no reason other > than providing functionality in or more presentations. For some reason your logic escapes me. I am under the impression that a hyperlink is, indeed, structural. Would you agree with this ? Proceeding with that assumption, *any* hyperlink would be structural. Would you still agree ? And, if so, I wonder what precisely the difference is between a <a href="#main">Main content</a> and <a href="#first">Chapter One</a> Frankly, apart from the fact that as it IS in the currently standard (ie. WCAG 1.0) that is, under some circumstances, to be followed and hence should be in there, I cannot see that there is a fundamental difference. Either A is a structural element, and can be freely used to create links, OR it isn't - and all of them should go. > In a "pure" form of content-driven structural HTML, rather than one > which makes special exceptions for specific modalities, there's no way > you'd be inserting such a link. Would you, then, not use any form of internal link at all ? > But the insertion of that _link_ at a particular place is only meant > to force the insertion of an arbitrary link at an arbitrary place. No. The reason for inserting that link at a particular place is to give the user a link to a specific part/section of a document. Sometimes a cigar is, simply, a cigar. Yes, LINK would be better for this purpose. Sadly the idea that was introduced in 1995 has yet to be adopted by so-called "mainstream" browsers, even if Lynx has had it for ages. 'Skip navigation' is not a 'hack'. It is, quite simply, using a normal internal hyperlink to solve a very practical problem of accessibility. Applying a less-than-perfect tool for a particular job is not exactly the same as applying the *wrong* tool. > But Skip Navigation is still a hack -- because it's pseudo-structural > markup, that functions as presentational markup. You stand by your claim that A, then, is pseudo-structural at best ? -- - Tina Holmboe Greytower Technologies tina@greytower.net http://www.greytower.net/ [+46] 0708 557 905
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