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RE: No JavaScript for previous page and print screen

From: Nissen, Dan E <Dan.Nissen@UNISYS.com>
Date: Thu, 22 May 2003 13:00:13 -0500
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To: w3c-wai-ig@w3.org

Sorry if I misinterpreted the law.  I could say that it helps make my point,
the law is very vague, and pretty weak.  The White House is not a Federal
agency, so it is not covered.  The Congress, as usual, is also not covered.
And, there is a difference between the provisions for what should be done,
and the provisions for remedies.  

And, I am glad to learn that NASA is going beyond the enforceable


-----Original Message-----
From: Larry G. Hull [mailto:Larry.G.Hull@nasa.gov]
Sent: Thursday, May 22, 2003 12:51 PM
To: Andrew Kirkpatrick
Cc: Nissen, Dan E; w3c-wai-ig@w3.org
Subject: Re: No JavaScript for previous page and print screen


I'm not a lawyer so I won't try to discuss the language, however....

When it comes to addressing Section 508 complaints, as far as I'm 
aware, my agency doesn't distinguish between the very large number of 
Web sites developed and maintained by our contractors (i.e., 
procured) and the smaller number of sites developed solely by 


At 12:36 PM -0400 5/22/03, Andrew Kirkpatrick wrote:
>There are provisions that cover procurement and development, but the
>enforcement section only refers to procurement.  [29 U.S.C.  794d.f.1.b]
>See http://www.access-board.gov/sec508/guide/act.htm
>(f) Enforcement
>(1) General
>(A) Complaints
>Effective 6 months after the date of publication by the Access Board of
>final standards described in subsection (a) (2), any individual with a
>disability may file a complaint alleging that a Federal department or
>fails to comply with subsection (a)(1) of this section in providing
>electronic and information technology.
>(B) Application
>This subsection shall apply only to electronic and information technology
>that is procured by a Federal department or agency not less than 6 months
>after the date of publication by the Access Board of final standards
>described in subsection (a) (2).
>(2) Administrative complaints
>Complaints filed under paragraph (1) shall be filed with the Federal
>department or agency alleged to be in noncompliance. The Federal department
>or agency receiving the complaint shall apply the complaint procedures
>established to implement section 794 of this title for resolving
>of discrimination in a federally conducted program or activity.
>(3) Civil actions
>The remedies, procedures, and rights set forth in sections 794a(a)(2) and
>794a(b) of this title shall be the remedies, procedures, and rights
>available to any individual with a disability filing a complaint under
>paragraph (1).
>On 5/22/03 12:05 PM, "Larry G. Hull" <Larry.G.Hull@nasa.gov> wrote:
>>  Yes, Section 508 has procurement provisions but two of the provisions
>>  specifically cover software development and Web sites whether done
>>  under contract or inhouse by Federal employees. Unfortunately,
>>  education is a long term and continuous process not an instantaneous
>>  one and, as I've found more than once, instruction does not ensure
>>  understanding.
>>>  This dialogue is based on a common misperception of the law that is
>>>  508.  First of all, Section 508 is a procurement provision, meaning
that it
>  >> operates in the acquisition process.  It does not apply to existing
>  >> systems, and it does not seem to apply to work done by Federal
>Andrew Kirkpatrick
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