- From: Charles McCathieNevile <charles@sidar.org>
- Date: Fri, 16 May 2003 10:56:22 +0200
- To: Lauke PH <P.H.Lauke@salford.ac.uk>
- CC: Matthew Smith <matt@kbc.net.au>, WAI Interest Group <w3c-wai-ig@w3.org>
my AUD 0.02 (legally the defined value is 0 on its own, but it can be combined to give it a real value)... This seems like a sound approach. One possible way of storing the longdesc information is using annotea - http://www.w3.org/2001/Annotea This uses RDF to hold the metadata about a URI, so it is relatively easy to get the description in the language you want, and equally to create a form-based interface to create data. There are a number of implementations - as well as the stuff listed on the site there are a collection of java tools for building clients, and some C++ stuff as well (both built for student projects in France - I need the time to get the routines listed :( A similar possibility is RDFPic - tools for including information directly in a jpeg and extracing it again, compatible with Adobe's XMP stuff. And open source, crying out for extension to PNG, GIF, SVG... I'd be happy to help with a Spanish version of the interface, and can look around for some other languages (my primary ones are french, spanish, italian and english, but I like learning :) One of the benefits of making this stuff explicit is that it is a lot easier to search for images by an actual description than by the fact that there might be relevant words nearby in a page (apparently ho google's image search works). cheers Chaals Lauke PH wrote: >Here's my quick GBP0.02 on this: > > > >>1) I would like to get access to the longdesc text of the images by a >>means accessible to "normal" browsers (I haven't been able to work it >>out in Mozilla); I've seen the "D" link concept, but on a page of >>thumbnails, this doesn't sound too practical since we would have a >>multiplication of link texts. Ideas? >> >> > >To avoid multiplication of link texts, why not expand the title >attribute of the [D] slightly to include the image title ? >Provided that image titles are unique (ok, a baseless assumption), >you could have "description for [IMAGE TITLE]" as the title attribute. >If the image title is not unique, maybe it could also include the >unique ID for the image...maybe not 100% elegant, but at least that >would solve the "uniqueness" to links. >"description for [IMAGE TITLE] - [IMAGE ID]" > > > >>2) Am I going "too far" in proposing a completely text-only version >>(selectable by a link in the galleries) which comes out like this: >><h1>gallery title</h1> >><h2>image1 title</h2> >><p>longdesc for image1</p> >><h2>image2 title</h2> >>...etc. >>To me this seems just as valid to do this way in the same way >>that radio >>coverage of a spectator sport is as valid as television coverage. >> >> > >To me that sounds like an extremely sensible idea. > > > >>3) Phase II will put see all the text finding it's way into the >>database, allowing language selection. If anyone would be >>interested in >>helping in translating menu options, error messages, etc., into other >>languages, let me know. >> >> > >I've got 4 languages under my belt (German, Italian, French, English) >and would be quite happy to contribute. > > > >>4) All stages to accessible apart from the one where the >>operator has to >>look at the pictures and write up the longdescs! >> >> > >Again, this does make sense to me. I don't see an accessible way >in which a visually impaired user may get an alternative way of >writing a description for something that potentially they can't see. >As long as it's accessible in all other terms (properly labelled >form fields, sane tab order, etc) that should be fine. > >Happy coding, and let me know if you may need help with the translation, > >Patrick >________________________________ >Patrick H. Lauke >Webmaster >External Relations Division >Faraday House >University of Salford >Greater Manchester >M5 4WT > >Tel: +44 (0) 161 295 4779 > >e-mail: webmaster@salford.ac.uk >www.salford.ac.uk > >A GREATER MANCHESTER UNIVERSITY > > >
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