- From: John Foliot - bytown internet <foliot@bytowninternet.com>
- Date: Wed, 9 Apr 2003 08:17:45 -0400
- To: "Jonathan Chetwynd" <j.chetwynd@btinternet.com>, "W3c-Wai-Ig" <w3c-wai-ig@w3.org>
Having used an older Panasonic Toughbook (CF27) with a built in touch screen (http://www.panasonic.com/computer/notebook/html/01a2.htm) I have had some experience. In this incarnation, there is no right-click functionality directly from the screen... the best I could accomplish was to tap a "focus" onto the screen and then use the right click button on the laptop. Care was needed as well as tapping focus on a hyperlink was the same as "clicking"... off we went. Also of note is the fact that the touch screen required a certain amount of pressure to register a click. As far as JavaScript event handlers are concerned, while onMouseover and onFocus technically worked, they ultimately also applied the onClick event handler, as the pressure required for the "focus" was also enough for the "click". Since it is a lap top, with a screen of approximately 12", this rig also allows me to bring home the point about scalable text; it is also useful for illustrating the need for large enough "hot spots" when creating links, image maps, etc. Really tiny icons, small text links (imagine trying to click on the letter "I" from an alphabetical list: "...G H I J K L...") are also problematic, as are radio buttons and checkboxes; for while my hands and fingers are not overly large for a man's hand, they aren't petit either <grin>. The issue with small icons led me to experiment with sizing images with "ems", with some nifty results (see: http://www.bytowninternet.com/examples/relative.html) Jonathan, I'm a little confused. When visiting your "leaves page" all mouse click functionality has been removed. Does not removing "expected" behaviours from a page (and arguably an operating system) also present accessibility problems? If a user (any user) normally uses the right click functionality of the standard Windows environment and attempts to do so here, they are presented with a "new" model of behaviour (i.e. right click does not work). Heck, even the most basic "left click" on the screen has been disabled, again opening the possibility of "confusion" to the average user. And I won't even begin to surmise what "Access Bob" will say about this page, as rendered in a text only browser (or for that matter JAWs or IBM Homepage Reader or any browser which does not support JavaScript). And so you have built an application specific, task specific, audience specific web page. Does it serve a function and it's intended audience well? Probably... I can see this as being a great training tool for those with poor gross and fine motor skills. But accessible, in the broader context? I don't get it... this could have been created in Flash as well, and served the same function. JF > -----Original Message----- > From: w3c-wai-ig-request@w3.org [mailto:w3c-wai-ig-request@w3.org]On > Behalf Of Jonathan Chetwynd > Sent: Wednesday, April 09, 2003 3:39 AM > To: w3c-wai-ig@w3.org > Subject: touchscreens and interactive whiteboards > > > > Some of our students learning to use a computer were having problems > with mouse clicking, that is they were inadvertently and repeatedly > clicking without intended purpose. Not all like trackballs, so we > recently removed right and left click events on this page > http://www.pmld.org/leaves. How does this effect touchscreens and > interactive whiteboard users? > We have a very broad range of users, and are concerned to get this > right if at all possible. > > Does anyone know how touchscreens and interactive whiteboards activate > onclick and onmouseover events? > > some I know have a 'hold' facility, but has anyone seen a survey? > > Does WCAG address this difference sufficiently, it may be that this > needs some additional specification similar to that for onfocus. > > thanks > > Jonathan > > > >
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