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RE: PopUp Windows / New Windows

From: Charles McCathieNevile <charles@w3.org>
Date: Mon, 16 Sep 2002 03:42:57 -0400 (EDT)
To: John Foliot - bytown internet <foliot@bytowninternet.com>
cc: Jim Ley <jim@jibbering.com>, <w3c-wai-ig@w3.org>
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.30.0209160308320.23140-100000@tux.w3.org>

This little gem, buried in the middle, brings us closer to some really useful
answers to the original question, as I understand it. The question is, can we
rely on browsers (rather than the way content is authored) to stop users
having a new window opened and confusing them?.

So if Mozilla and Opera can suppress the new windows (do they open them at
all, or does the user just lose that window) and iCab can stop scripts from
openeing new windows (either in general, or with the exception that it is
allowed for user interaction), and Home Page Reader alerts the user that a
New Window opened, are we getting to the point anticipated in the guidelines
where browsers do the right thing and authors suggeting a new window are
readily overridden by users who don't want one?

Keep that data coming...



On Sun, 15 Sep 2002, John Foliot - bytown internet wrote:

>Back to the JavaScript example, with the explosion of "anti pop-up" software
>out there (Popup Killer - www.stopzilla.com, Popup Zapper -
>www.versiontracker.com, BanPopup - www.oiisoft.com/BanPopup, PopUpCop -
>www.popupcop.com, ...need I go on?)  Clearly many mainstream users dislike
>this behaviour, as witnessed by the softwares above and others like it.  And
>none of these softwares (that I'm aware of) recognize "good" popups .vs
>"bad" popups.  Even User agents themselves are getting into the act: Opera
>allows users to configure the browser to not open Popups, Mozilla allows the
>user to disallow opening a link in a new window. I would question the wisdom
>of relying on this to present ANY data via web delivery.
Received on Monday, 16 September 2002 03:43:00 UTC

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