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From: SHARPE, Ian <Ian.SHARPE@cambridge.sema.slb.com>
Date: Fri, 30 Aug 2002 15:25:55 +0100
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Am I missing something? Firstly, the article doesn't explain how the
technology works or what the technology used is? I can't see what is going
on from "he clicked on the form and the he heard, First Name"? 

Secondly, for $2,000 per form I'll offer them a full HTML conversion service
and pay someone else to take the information and fill out the form!! OK,
there's privacy issues but it wouldn't be hard to automate a process to
automatically fill out the PDF forms anyway. As someone else has pointed
out, it depends how they are storing the information back end anyway? If
they're storing it in another system then it surely doesn't matter how the
information gets there?


-----Original Message-----
From: Joel Ward [mailto:ward_joel@bah.com]
Sent: 30 August 2002 14:40
To: WAI List
Subject: Re: washingtonpost.com 'Talking' Tax Forms For Blind

> easy answer to your last question, that is what the decided to do years
> ago so rather than find a real solution they decided to cludge.  Html
> would have been vastly superior and there are many other things they
> could have done and can do, but dispite frequent pounding on them, they
> like some other agencies have stayed a particular course for what ever
> reasons but the bottom line is that the consumer looses in the end.  The
> gains in this case apparently are the same forms can be served to all
> and pdf is their favorite route so they can still use it.  They have a
> lot of money tied up in it apparently.

Could they provide both a PDF forms and HTML forms to cover all the bases?
And both would integrate into the same back-end system?

Maybe they do?

Maybe they're going that way?

Standard web forms would no only help assistive technology users, but also
text browser users, PDA users, WebTV users, and anyone else who can't run

BTW, I found this on the IRS web site's accessibility page:

Persons using screen-reading devices, who generally cannot directly read
documents in PDF format, will find a HTML version of many of the forms and
the publications on the IRS site. Over the next several months, the IRS
plans to make all PDF files accessible. As new publications become available
in Acrobat 5.0, which is 508 compliant, they will be posted on the site.

For information on Forms and Publications Accessibility:
The IRS Alternative Media Center has prepared hundreds of its most popular
tax forms, instructions, and tax publications using full text descriptions
where needed and is making these files available for download through the
IRS web site. Adobe Acrobat PDF format has been used as a means of
distributing government forms as well as other documents.

BTW, I checked their forms section and selected a few forms to see what
formats they had available.  Of the dozen I selected, none had any other
formats than PDF.  Where are the HTML versions they speak of?

Even the "list of forms you can fill-in using your computer" are all PDFs.

I guess the eFile program offers some forms online.  But none are through
the IRS itself, and some cost money.  Maybe that's why the IRS is reluctant?

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