- From: Jim Ley <jim@jibbering.com>
- Date: Wed, 28 Aug 2002 15:58:15 -0000
- To: w3c-wai-ig@w3.org
"Martin McCormick" <martin@dc.cis.okstate.edu> wrote in message news:200208281504.g7SF4Gw26354@dc.cis.okstate.edu... > What we have is a lot of simple and, yes, primitive > building blocks that can be strung together sometimes at a > moments notice that do a good job of turning ASCII data in to > speech. Yep, absolutely for many people plain text representations as long as they exist are extremely accessible, however that doesn't mean that plain text will be accessible to all, images, animation, dynamics all add other groups who can then access the content. Also of course we can increase the understanding, and the ease of understanding and using content by using these other technologies, and as long as they authored in such a way that the plain text representation in unharmed, then no-one has been excluded (although there may be other issues concerning resource discovery etc.) > Every week, I hear of some new kind of script, plug-in, > or flash application that will probably do absolutely nothing > because the version of screen reader, etc, doesn't know how to > handle it so it is the old lynx javascript bugaboo all over > again except you pay a lot more cash to fight with private > vendors. Javascript is an optional extra in HTML, just like CSS is, I'm sure you'd agree that CSS shouldn't be smashed back to nothing? Yes you can make sites inaccessible with scripts, you can do so with CSS, mark-up languages like SVG make a plain text representation useless. Just because the first machines produced shoddy work it doesn't mean that the luddites were right and they should've been smashed, now the machines have developed the machines are fine. Yes, the standard of script authoring is woeful, but there's no way we can evangelise people away from using it, the usability enhancements (*) for the vast majority of users are simply too persuasive - demonstrating techniques of how to author accessibly is the way forward, not to try and smash the machinery. > Any information > technology that is based upon hoping that everybody will > "upgrade" whatever the heck that really means, is doomed to > failure. Indeed, but I in no way agree that upgrade is a requirement - there are some serious problems with the Mark-Up languages that were created years ago, and newer mark-up languages have more accessibility mechanisms built in - so whilst upgrade need not be required, it does mean that if you upgrade the ease and usability of content can be improved. Equally though any broken access technology / browser shouldn't be used as an excuse to not use the features of new technologies, the users of a broken browser should not prevent authors exploiting well supported technology. Jim. (*) Often these are often percieved rather than actual of course...
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