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Re: escape, not skip, tank traps [was: Re: Inaccessibility of older Flash movies]

From: Phill Jenkins <pjenkins@us.ibm.com>
Date: Tue, 27 Aug 2002 10:57:52 -0500
To: w3c-wai-ig@w3.org
Message-ID: <OF1B028E5C.A952E074-ON86256C22.00564FED@pok.ibm.com>

>Al wrote:
>>My point here is that the skip-nav or its cousin here the skip-movie
>>is something to do with what we have today; but that the answer for the
>>future is not a 'skip' method but an 'escape' method that provides the
>>'skip' capability and more.  Navigation bars are just another sub-case
>>along with tables and movies.
>Charles wrote:
>>I agree with Al that the model of being able to get into a navigation
>>structure and get out of it at ny point is better than having to decide
>>the beginning whether or not to follow the "skip navigation links" link.

>Phill wrote:
>Well, we need both.

>Agreed. What WCAG requires is that groups of links are identified and
>skippable. I think that is one bit, and that being able to escape a block
>important. (That is a requirement in UAAG - checkpoint 9.9
>http://www.w3.org/TR/UAAG/guidelines.html#tech-nav-structure in the
>draft). In addition, being able to get to "the start of the content" is an
>important feature in navigation - like being able to get to a search page
>any collection of pages (analogous to using the browser search for a
>I am not sure that it is explicitly identified as a requirement in
>WCAG 1.0 which has a short list of explicit structure requirements and
>requires "navigation bars"...

Phill writes:

Not only is it (skip to main content) not in WCAG 1.0, it's not in WCAG 2.0
either.  But I think "skip to main content" could fit in Checkpoint 3.3
Provide multiple methods to explore sites that are more than two layers

WCAG 1.0 and WCAG 2.0 are too biased to the notion that structured content
is the answer when in fact the structures in XHTML are too limited to
communicate more of the semantics of web pages and web applications today.
If there was a "main content" tag, in addition to the "body" tag", then
that could mark the beginning of the "main content".  Additions of the "top
navigation" tag, side navigation, advertisement, etc. tags would help in
further communicating not so much the "structure" but the intended purpose
of the content that could then be presented and navigated by the browser.
I'll take this thread and include it in my comments on WCAG 2.0

Phill Jenkins
Received on Tuesday, 27 August 2002 11:58:55 UTC

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