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RE: Invisible Skip navigation link

From: Al Gilman <asgilman@iamdigex.net>
Date: Tue, 06 Aug 2002 11:52:34 -0400
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To: "Phill Jenkins" <pjenkins@us.ibm.com>, w3c-wai-ig@w3.org

At 11:16 AM 2002-08-06, Phill Jenkins wrote:

>This is a know problem with speech synthesizers.  When to treat the period
>as punctuation and when to treat it as a dot, as in dot com.  Do it the
>proper way by following conventional grammar practices and let the
>synthesizers get their problems fixed.

I don't quite agree.  Using punctuation as styling cannot be done
in so context-free a manner as HPR is currently doing.  If punctuation enough
to force a pause is present adjacent to the end of the link, HPR should not
be injecting fresh punctuation to achieve a pause because the result is not
what HPR intended.  A broader context has to be read before deciding what to
write in this situation.


>One way to avoid the dot vs period problem is to never end the sentence
>with link text.  If you put the link in the middle of the sentence, then
>the sentence ends with regular text followed by a period that will get
>treated as a period and not a hanging dot.
>By the way, DOH get's read as Date of Hire.  What did you mean by DOH?
>IBM Research Division - Accessibility Center
>"Steve Vosloo" <stevenvosloo@yahoo.com>@w3.org on 08/06/2002 05:06:08 AM
>Sent by:    w3c-wai-ig-request@w3.org
>To:    <w3c-wai-ig@w3.org>
>Subject:    RE: Invisible Skip navigation link
>Just tried this in IBM Homepage Reader (HPR) and had a problem with the
>ALT on the image. By default HPR adds a full stop to an ALT description,
>so ALT="Hello world" gets read as "Hello world." (with a pause after
>'world'). But if you add a non-breaking space then you get "Hello world
>." which sounds like "Hello world DOT" (because of the space).
>Of course if you use the old ALT="Hello world." you get "Hello world..",
>which also sounds like "Hello world DOT".
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