- From: Tina Marie Holmboe <tina@elfi.org>
- Date: Tue, 16 Jul 2002 23:38:48 +0200
- To: RUST Randal <RRust@COVANSYS.com>
- Cc: w3c-wai-ig@w3.org
On Tue, Jul 16, 2002 at 03:47:54PM -0400, RUST Randal wrote: > Now wait a minute here, sighted users get a lot of junk they don't want > either, but seem to deal with it OK. Why can't this be expected of users > with alternative devices? To quote a partially (very partially) sighted user I spoke with a while ago: "Oh, marvellous! A page without that CLUTTER of eyecandy!" My personal view here: the negative effect of really redundant information in a document is much larger if the content is presented to the user as one word at a time, read, or one phrase at a time, Brailled. A visual user (what a phrase ... ) can, with relative ease, skip sections of a document. A Braille or Speech user must, by definition, get the content linearized. > I don't mean to tick anyone off either, but this is getting silly. Let's > try to solve the problem. We are. But I, and others, do not agree that the *right problem* is on the table. WHY do we want people to upgrade ? In order to achieve a more uniform spread of browser capabilities ? In order to remove older, buggy, browsers ? In order to achieve more uniform *visual appearences* of designs ? In order to achieve better *accessibility* ? > The reality is, you can just put a "Skip Message" link in front of it. That > can't really be anymore annoying than a "Skip Navigation" link. "Skip this message about upgrading your browser", you mean. If you just have a "Skip message", then I - atleast - would *not* skip it in case it was a *different* message. "Skip the navigation" is pretty universal from document to document. "Skip the message" may make me ask "Is this the SAME message as before ?" -- - Tina H.
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