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Re: [w3c-wai-ig] <none>

From: jonathan chetwynd <j.chetwynd@btinternet.com>
Date: Sat, 13 Jul 2002 07:18:14 +0100
Message-ID: <001901c22a35$1445b0a0$c77520d9@RJCHETWYND>
To: "Jim Ley" <jim@jibbering.com>, "W3c-Wai-Ig" <w3c-wai-ig@w3.org>


you called for examples, It would be a great help, if along with describing
various chosen navigational methods we could all habitually link to
I realise this is extra work, and impractical in some instances. However it
is more effective for some users, like myself.


----- Original Message -----
From: "Jim Ley" <jim@jibbering.com>
To: "W3c-Wai-Ig" <w3c-wai-ig@w3.org>
Sent: Saturday, July 13, 2002 12:26 AM
Subject: [w3c-wai-ig] <none>

> Subject: Re: accessible navigation
> Date: Sat, 13 Jul 2002 00:26:01 +0100
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> "David Poehlman" <poehlman1@comcast.net>
> > yes the words are important, but we are dealing with a small window
> > because as has been pointed out in earlier messages, we are taking into
> > account, pdas, screen enlargement, refreshable Braille displays,
> > anything that requires a lot of scrolling to fit what you want to view
> > into your viewing window.
> Yes, but you also have to take into account the users who haven't got
> small displays, and for these if the link text is so confusing as to not
> be understandable, I can't see how either accessibility or usability has
> improved, and if the links "do nothing" (i.e. when the viewport is large
> enough that there's no scrolling) then they'll be extremely confusing.
> Equally I don't find any use of them when using either of my PDA's, but I
> can appreciate others may, particularly for more character cell / voice
> agents.
> All I am asking for is for the people who say it's a good idea, to provide
> examples of how to do it! what link text is not going to confuse?  As far
> as I can see sensible links to _content_ repeated at the end of a document
> can be useful, random links with text you have to learn meaning of anew on
> each website you visit isn't.
> If navigation is at the start of the document, a "to navigation" link I
> don't see the point of, going back to the start of a document is done
> extremely well by UA's in a mechanism the user will be used to.  For a
> link to
> content rather than just the obscure "back to content" or anything similar
> as has been suggested by some, why not use what the actual content is as
> you would when choosing any other link text, you only then have the
> problem of ensuring the user realises it's within the same html document.
> Jim.
Received on Saturday, 13 July 2002 02:18:22 UTC

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