- From: Jim Tobias <tobias@inclusive.com>
- Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2001 06:03:21 -0400
- To: Marjolein Katsma <access@javawoman.com>, Kynn Bartlett <kynn@reef.com>, w3c-wai-ig@w3.org
Hi All, I agree with all of Marjolein's points about non-commercial sites. But we need to look at the reality of user testing of commercial sites: if it's done at all, it's done on a small scale. Of the commercial sites I'm aware of, user testing amounts to nothing more than an afterthought; in one case, it involved 10 family members of the webweaver team! Of course user testing should be expanded -- no one would argue against that, and it should include users with disabilities. But to argue that right now companies should bring in dozens of folks with lots of screen reader experience flies in the face of current practice, which is why it's ignored. The origin of this thread was a proposal to develop a screen reader simulation tool. I accept all the criticisms we've seen here about the imperfection of such a tool. But face the fact that this is the number two request I hear from corporate webweavers. Number one is the automatic de-barrierizer, the coding tool that miraculously removes all inaccessibility from websites. I hope we all agree that it's more important to argue against that one! The screen reader simulation tool would point them in the right direction, no matter how imperfect it was. There should be a similar WAP tool, a phone-access tool (different from the screen reader tool), and others. None of these tools can guarantee anything, they can just illustrate the problems and solutions. If the only alternative is to read, digest, and internalize the WCAG, we're kinda sunk. Jim Jim Tobias Inclusive Technologies tobias@inclusive.com 732.441.0831 v/tty www.inclusive.com
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