- From: Miraz Jordan <miraz@firstbite.co.nz>
- Date: Mon, 14 May 2001 10:23:19 +1200
- To: w3c-wai-ig@w3.org
At 22:27 +0100 13/05/2001, David Woolley wrote: > > >> Definitely OT for this list: much as I certainly teach Styles for >> Word, Pagemaker and HTML there's still a need in Word to start off > >Not really. It is the ease of teaching WYSIWYG formatting that results >in virtually no HTML authors actually understanding HTML! Well, horses for courses. I totally agree that when teaching HTML one should go straight to stylesheets and structure and not teach random bolding etc. >I don't think that structure is difficult to teach, except to people >who have already learnt with tools that don't directly support it. >Someone who is used to using manual typewriters will naturally try >to underline headings, and someone who has used Write will think in >terms of bolding text to create a heading, so pragmatic considerations >may mean that you have to provide them with a migration path. However >it is too easy to use the same path for learners who don't have >preconceptions; the result is that people are being continually taught >how to violate most of the priority 2 WCAG rules. In terms of teaching MS Word, which is what my web pages are about, I don't see any problem with first teaching someone how to select text and apply bold, colours etc and then later moving to teach stylesheets. The media are quite different. When I create a web page I can reasonable expect that a computer will mediate my communication and software and hardware will render my page as one or many of: visual text and graphics, spoken words, braille, in my language or another language. Software could create a table of contents or perhaps summarise my text. When I use MS Word to type a letter to my Aunty Flo and print it ready for posting or faxing, I don't think that my use of bold or otherwise has much relevance to anything beyond how I want that page to look. OTOH: when a "typist" in a government department uses MS Word to type up a briefing paper which will then be passed electronically to an analyst for further comment and editing, incorrect typing and failure to use Stylesheets can be devastatingly wasteful of resources. I think we could now firmly return to the topic of HTML which is where this discussion began. Cheers, Miraz -- Tips: <http://www.firstbite.co.nz/mactips/> <http://www.firstbite.co.nz/eutips/> A service of First Bite of the Apple
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