- From: Gregory J. Rosmaita <unagi69@concentric.net>
- Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2000 12:54:17 -0500
- To: "Bruce Bailey" <bbailey@clark.net>
- Cc: WAI Interest Group Emailing List <w3c-wai-ig@w3.org>
aloha, bruce! you wrote: Philosophically, I think the ALT content should parallel the IMG content.If the graphic is a little cryptic, so should be the ALT text! I am grateful that TITLE gives me an appropriate place to add a little more content. Is it my fault that the current crop of browsers don't implement this well? Visually, the IMGs line up nicely and look like buttons. I wanted to try and convey this with the ALT content, hence my use of "Jump to". I will sometimes use ALT like "DORS Logo", but that is NOT what is pictured in this case! unquote no, it is not your fault that TITLE isn't widely or consistently supported, but literally reproducing graphic content as ALT text, does not, in both my personal and professional estimation, constitute a very wise practice... consider this real life case taken from an educational institution's web site, which has since been completely overhauled: on a page there appeared 3 graphically defined hyperlinks one of them contained a picture of a rose, another a snowflake, and the third a maple-leaf.... following the link with which the graphic of the rose had been associated, led to information about the spring semester; following the snowflake link, led to information on the winter session, and the leaf link led to information about the fall semester... the links were ALT texted in accordance with your philosophy -- one was ALT-texted "rose", the second "snowflake", and the third "leaf turning from green to red" now, such ALT text accurately described the graphic for which they were defined, but what information does that convey to the user? absolutely none... moreover, what of users whose primary means of accessing content (such as those using robust text-based solutions, such as NetTamer or Lynx32), for whom TITLE text is either unavailable, or available only in limited circumstances (such as when viewing a list of links)? it is insufficient to simply say -- well, the graphics are pretty damn cryptic, so why shouldn't the ALT text follow suit? it is a question of general usability, as well as accessibility... and the two goals -- accessibility and usability -- are often quite inter-related... in closing, you asked, quote: In short, if the MD TAP button graphic isn't sufficient, is a better choice not to have the link at all? unquote no, bruce, you're missing my point... the aesthetics of your site are up to you -- if you like the way the buttons look, by all means, keep them, but realize that if you do, their function and purpose may not be readily apparent to anyone, especially someone whose experience of the web is, perforce, visually oriented and who may rely on iconic information... and, finally, since there is inconsistency between browsers on how (or whether) they handle TITLE and ALT when both are applied to a graphically defined hyperlink, wouldn't it be wiser to err on the side of caution? gregory. -------------------------------------------------------- He that lives on Hope, dies farting -- Benjamin Franklin, Poor Richard's Almanack, 1763 -------------------------------------------------------- Gregory J. Rosmaita <unagi69@concentric.net> WebMaster and Minister of Propaganda, VICUG NYC <http://www.hicom.net/~oedipus/vicug/index.html> --------------------------------------------------------
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