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RE: Please give feedback on a bobby approved site

From: Veglahn, Wendee (WT Chen) <Veglahn@Volpe.DOT.Gov>
Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2000 09:06:20 -0400
Message-ID: <45BE03F5A93FD311A7BA00805FBB4A68F63A15@vntmail04.volpe.dot.gov>
To: "Brockbank, Leslie" <LBrockbank@uta.cog.ut.us>
Cc: WAI IG <w3c-wai-ig@w3.org>
Not sure if this would be for you, but I have a few minor content comments. On the 'How to  Print' page (http://www.rideuta.com/schedules/print.htm) The "Click" (or "Click here") assumes the user is using a pointing tool  -- suggestion: "Select" or "Go to"

The directions for printing are not very clear and would be different between browsers. The direction listed are right on for Netscape but with Internet Explorer the user would go to 'File' then to 'Print...' in order to get the dialog box to change the page orientation. 


-----Original Message-----
From: Charles McCathieNevile [mailto:charles@w3.org]
Sent: Tuesday, June 20, 2000 12:22 AM
To: Brockbank, Leslie
Subject: Re: Please give feedback on a bobby approved site

Thomas is right - problem one is that there are users who are completely
excluded (like me, when I first tried to get to the site - I don't have
javascript on Lynx).

A couple of comments about the content inside the site:

Grouping things in red by using a font element instead of either a class, or
div/table grouping markup, violates checkpoints of WCAG.

Although it is not trivial to do, it is not very complex to  to provide an
interface through a database system that allows the user to customise the
presentation - a sort of wizard-based stylesheet generator can apply ACSS,
colours, different fonts, or whatever. Since you use cookies it is not hard
to track that and provide an approproiate stylesheet link.

The tables that specify the actual times should be laid out horizontally
insted of vertically - that way the reader gets

Stop x   9am  10am  11am  12.15pm
stop y  9.02  10.02 11.15  1pm

read out instead of

stop x stop y stop z


Alternatively, you could provide a link to the tablin service at
http://jigsaw.w3.org:8000/tablin or download it and use it to test /
linearise tables yourself - http://www.w3.org/WAI/References/tablin

(Note that thesee comments apply to the noshock version - I ahve not looked
at the other yet.


Charles McCathieNevile

On Mon, 19 Jun 2000, Thomas Dowling wrote:

  ----- Original Message -----
  From: "Brockbank, Leslie" <LBrockbank@uta.cog.ut.us>
  To: <w3c-wai-ig@w3.org>
  Sent: Monday, June 19, 2000 4:20 PM
  Subject: Please give feedback on a bobby approved site
  > I have designed my site to meet with the Bobby approval. I have been
  an avid
  > voyeur of your conversations over the past year and recognize that my
  > may not be as good as I hope.  Please spend some time around our site
  > offer any comments to me at:
  > lbrockbank@uta.cog.ut.us
  > The URL is www.rideuta.com.
  > I strongly believe in the importance of designing information that is
  > accessible by all.  I hope to eventually see more transit agencies hop
  > board.
  You should check the site with Javascript turned off.  This doesn't bode
  well for many users:
      <body onLoad="CheckBrowser()">
  Thomas Dowling
  OhioLINK - Ohio Library and Information Network

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