- From: Charles McCathieNevile <charles@w3.org>
- Date: Fri, 9 Jun 2000 11:48:59 -0400 (EDT)
- To: "Gregory J. Rosmaita" <unagi69@concentric.net>
- cc: WAI Interest Group Emailing List <w3c-wai-ig@w3.org>
Well, one way to get more information about what a page is doing is to use a WYSIWYG editor as a user agent - some of the better ones have enough functionality to rival more "traditional" browsers. Charles McCN On Thu, 8 Jun 2000, Gregory J. Rosmaita wrote: aloha, charles! yes, use of the div element in conjunction with the title attribute is a far superior method of marking a block of text thank is the horizontal rule, as it marks all child blocks as part of that page -- which can be an important consideration when one is using web-based material which was converted from print, and where knowledge of the print conventions used in the original can be extremely important to the end user, something which is especially important when web-based content is being used in an academic setting... of course, getting the title from a div is even harder than obtaining it from a horizontal rule, even if you are using a user agent that exposes the content of the title attribute as a ToolTip OnMouseOver -- especially if you are incapable of using (or don't even own) a pointing device... it also doesn't help that those UAs that do support exposition of the title attribute do so spottily (expansion of title for ACRONYM but not ABBR in MSIE 5.01, for example), and that support for the tooltip method of exposing the title attribute changes drastically from release to release (i've been told that IE4, for example, exposed titles appended to horizontal rules OnMouseOver... hopefully, uniform (and universal) implementation of the W3C DOM in mainstream UAs will fix that, though, for it is from the DOM that a DOM-aware adaptive technology could extract such extended semantic information, and make it available to the user either on-demand, as a default, or not at all, depending upon the users' preference... and strict adherence to the User Agent Accessibility Guidelines will ensure that, if the user so desires, such extended semantic information will be available to users regardless of modality... gregory. -------------------------------------------------------- He that lives on Hope, dies farting -- Benjamin Franklin, Poor Richard's Almanack, 1763 -------------------------------------------------------- Gregory J. Rosmaita <unagi69@concentric.net> WebMaster and Minister of Propaganda, VICUG NYC <http://www.hicom.net/~oedipus/vicug/index.html> -------------------------------------------------------- -- Charles McCathieNevile mailto:charles@w3.org phone: +61 (0) 409 134 136 W3C Web Accessibility Initiative http://www.w3.org/WAI Location: I-cubed, 110 Victoria Street, Carlton VIC 3053 Postal: GPO Box 2476V, Melbourne 3001, Australia
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