- From: geoff freed <geoff_freed@wgbh.org>
- Date: 21 Dec 1999 09:44:31 -0500
- To: <w3c-wai-ig@w3.org>, Bruce Bailey <bbailey@clark.net>, <w3c-wai-ig-request@w3.org>
- CC: "'Web Accessibility Initiative'" <w3c-wai-ig@w3.org>
Hi, Bruce: In a previous message, I told you to replace the old CAR.SMI layout section with the following: <layout> <root-layout background-color="black" height="60" width="250"/> <region id="textregion" top="10" left="-37" height="120" width="250"/> </layout> I neglected to say that you must also delete the VIDEO section of the SMIL file, too. Otherwise you'll get error messages. Sorry. Geoff Freed WGBH/NCAM On Monday, December 20, 1999, Bruce Bailey <bbailey@clark.net> wrote: >Geoff -- > >I really did know that RealPlayer and SMIL were *not* the same think, but I >assumed that G2 got it *right* -- but from what you write it sounds like we >are in the good-old-bad-days like with Netscape and HTML 2.0! > >Are you saying that it is not possible to write a SMIL file that follows >the W3C specs that also works as intended with RealPlayer? > >I am using the files contained in car.zip and elev1.zip posted at your site >from URL: >http://www.wgbh.org/wgbh/movies/ > >I have no way to confirm it with any certainty, but the "live" files are >hosted by the Able channel at URL: >http://www.tvontheweb.com/channels/able/ > >From what (little) I know, one CANNOT download "live" SMIL files, even >though they are plain ASCII text. (This is true of the binary RealMedia >files too.) One would think that there is some clever way around this. > Anyone on this list know the trick? The files don't seem to be kept in >the browser cache either. Personally, I would MUCH rather just download > the RealMedia (.rm) files (and play them offline), but I think keeping the >source out the hands of the users is one of the products >"features". > >I have mirror the files on my agency's site. I don't have the RealPlayer >server software/hardware, so the files are just raw. You can't play them >(you'll get an error message), but they will download. It would be nice if >NCAM did this (hint, hint), especially since the audio and video tracks >don't compress much (having the files in a single archive is >nice though). > >The SMIL validation report can be found (for the time being) at URL: >http://validator.w3.org/check?uri=http://www.dors.sailorsite.net/ncam_sm >il/car.smi > >Geoff, you are in a position better than anyone to answer the question that >got me started with this. > Given a RealAudio file (like cardescen.rm) and captions (say, for example, >carcapsen.rt), what does the WORKING .smi text file look like that plays >WITHOUT a "videoregion"? (Or at least the minimum size >necessary.) > >Thank you. > >-- Bruce > > >On Monday, December 20, 1999 1:56 PM, geoff freed >[SMTP:geoff_freed@wgbh.org] wrote: >> Hi, Bruce: >> >> I am curious to know what CAR file you used as a source, as there are a >couple available. Also, there is at least one kludge built into the >CAR.SMI file: the textregion contains a negative number: >> >> <region id="textregion" top="135" left="-37" height="120" width="250"/> ></layout> >> >> which is necessary due to a bug in the G2 Player's ability to center text >properly. This will definitely screw up a validation report. Can you send >me the report? Thanks. >> >> FYI, the text file used for the captions is a RealText file, which is >proprietary to RealNetworks. That will also not validate properly. >> >> Geoff Freed >> WGBH/NCAM > > >
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