- From: Lloyd G. Rasmussen <lras@loc.gov>
- Date: Wed, 25 Mar 98 11:42:54 EST
- To: crism@ora.com, w3c-wai-ig@w3.org
Comments about point 2. Other comments below. I haven't gone to the page under discussion yet. LR: Sorry, I think ASCII art should be deprecated. You don't know which punctuations will or won't be turned on in a particular browser/screen reader combination for a particular user. Repeat filters can remove multiple occurences of *identical* characters, but your mixture of punctuations goes through without repeat filtering; it gets in the way. I don't mind verbal descriptions in the alt text, but since they are spacers, they should be extremely terse. Even an alt text like ". ." would be effective in some situations, causing a pause in the speech stream at the horizontal rule. I don't guarantee that ". ." will always work either. On Wed, 25 Mar 1998 10:59:45 -0500, Chris Maden <crism@ora.com> wrote: ... >(1) The description "typing pc" is very unclear. I use Lynx as my >primary browser, and this was the only thing I didn't understand. >Maybe "cartoon PC typing on its own keyboard" would be better. > LR: I could dig that. ><img alt="purple line________________________________"> and ><img alt="zig-zag line /\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\"> would >work well. > >(3) Change the background graphic. It's distracting to me - I'd go >with something non-textual. Toning it down may have prevented screen >readers from trying to read it, but now it's nearly unreadable to the >sighted, and I spent a little while trying to figure out what it was. >When it first loaded, I honestly thought it was Hebrew. > LR: If there is text on a page, even in an invisible color, a screen reading program will probably read it. Whether you hear it before or after the main foreground text of the page, I don't know, but if the browser renders it as text, it will be in the display and the off-screen model somewhere. This is one of the places where bitmapped text might actually be useful; we wouldn't have to listen to it. LR: Don't get me wrong. If there are pictures or audio clips that I am encouraged to download or print to paper or show to sighted students, I want them to be labeled with more than a cryptic filename. But many of the decorative devices on web pages are best skipped and not described. -- Lloyd Rasmussen Senior Staff Engineer, Engineering Section National Library Service for the Blind and Physically Handicapped Library of Congress 202-707-0535 (work) lras@loc.gov http://www.loc.gov/nls/ (home) lras@sprynet.com http://home.sprynet.com/sprynet/lras/
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