- From: gregory j. rosmaita <oedipus@hicom.net>
- Date: Wed, 22 Oct 1997 21:30:43 -0400 (EDT)
- To: Al Gilman <asgilman@access.digex.net>
- cc: w3c-wai-ig@w3.org
aloha, al et. al.! how sadly ironic that the MS proposal should degrade so ungracefully when rendered by lynx or any other text-based browser... i can get realaudio to stream through my desktop when browsing with lynx32, yet i can't get consistently comprehensible aural output from a document automatically converted into hypertext by Word97... if MS is to convince me that they are serious about accessibility and standards, then they will either bundle an HTML parser/validator with their HTML generators, or at the very least, take the time to _validate_ the output of their automatic conversion utilities before posting, mounting, or circulating any hypertext documents generated by such utilities... checked against http://www.webtechs.com/html-val-svc for compliance with HTML 3.2 the MS proposal contained 199 errors... and, while--for the most part--the actual body of the document was comprehensible, the front-matter most decidedly is not--save for those fortunate few who have access to a cell-by-cell capable browser... in particular, anyone listening to the proposal as rendered by lynx 2.5 and greater, would have heard the table-ized content as: Version Author Date Change 0.9 Or Ben-Natan 6/6/97 Initial version of course, this is the root of the problem which we are attempting to solve through our participation in the WAI and its working groups... but what of the user who will not reap the benefits of our work? those who, for whatever reason, physical and/or financial, have no choice but to use antiquated equipment and/or access the web via a shell account that features an ancient version of lynx which doesn't even support lynx's de-table-ization kludge? while it is the purpose of this list to look forward, we must not forget that true accessibility looks as far backwards as it does forward... what am i talking about? perhaps a listen to/look at/feel of http://www.njin.net/caldwell/vicug/iaap/table_32.html will make my point more forcefully... and, should Microsoft (and its rivals in the GUI-based browser market) consider implementing an Aural Accessibility Protocol/Patch, such as that outlined at: http://www.njin.net/caldwell/vicug/iaap/ which would (amongst other things) allow the user to de-table-ize table-ized information, backwards-compatible access is extremely realizable... by way of conclusion, i should stress that it is not my intention to scapegoat Microsoft on this issue--invalid HTML is endemic to the output of HTML authoring/conversion programs/utilities... and, while SoftQuad has taken steps to remedy this with the release of HoTMetaL 4.0, HTML validation within authoring/conversion programs is still in its infancy... this, coupled with the ever-increasing popularity and ubiquity of such authoring/conversion applications and utilities, presents one of the most serious threats to an accessible internet... gregory. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- oedipus@hicom.net http://www.hicom.net/~oedipus/index.html gregory@afb.org -----------------------------------------------------------------------
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