RE: CFC - Approve COGA Work Statement

Hi Rachael,

Thank you for considering my comments.

Yes, I think that a more solid explanation of the deliverables and their timelines would greatly improve the Work Statement. I think it would also improve the expectations for the group and keep the work more focused. I am slightly concerned that there is no backlog or other sort of analysis for the next revision of Making Content Usable. I personally feel that such an update would be difficult to manage and to deliver on time without clearer understanding of the work ahead. However, I respect recommendations from the APA and AG chairs on this matter.

Best,
  Shadi

---
Shadi Abou-Zahra
Amazon, Devices Accessibility
Principal Standards and Policy Manager
---


From: Bradley-Montgomery, Rachael <rmontgomery@loc.gov>
Sent: Thursday, 10 March, 2022 1:54 PM
To: Abou-Zahra, Shadi <sabouzah@amazon.at>
Cc: AGWG <w3c-wai-gl@w3.org>; lisa.seeman@zoho.com; Rain Michaels <rainb@google.com>
Subject: RE: [EXTERNAL] CFC - Approve COGA Work Statement


CAUTION: This email originated from outside of the organization. Do not click links or open attachments unless you can confirm the sender and know the content is safe.


Hello Shadi,

I am including Lisa and Rain on this in case I misspeak.

You are correct that I misspoke in my other email. If we need to step back to discuss this in meeting, we certainly can but we have limited meeting time and it sounds like you don’t have concerns about the content so much as the structure.  I believe we can add document links without needing to redo the CFC (assuming there are no other concerns).

This is a taskforce work statement, not a working group charter. It is a much less formal document and is not intended to go to the level of detail of a charter. It is intentionally written to provide some flexibility and changes in direction while still guiding the work. The APA and AG chairs recommended a more general approach.

COGA is in a research phase now so can’t specify guideline proposals or exactly what changes will be made to content usable.  As to an initial set of guideline proposals, I expect they will be based on Content Usable but other than Clear Language, none have been scoped out. Also, based on where AG is in the WCAG 3.0 process, I would not expect more detail.

The COGA taskforce is creating a separate schedule that will include details, timelines, and will be updated more frequently.

Would the addition of the links and the opportunity to review the more detailed schedule when created address your concerns?

Kind regards,

Rachael


From: "Abou-Zahra, Shadi" <sabouzah@amazon.at<mailto:sabouzah@amazon.at>>
Date: Thursday, March 10, 2022 at 3:36 AM
To: "Bradley-Montgomery, Rachael" <rmontgomery@loc.gov<mailto:rmontgomery@loc.gov>>
Cc: AGWG <w3c-wai-gl@w3.org<mailto:w3c-wai-gl@w3.org>>
Subject: RE: CFC - Approve COGA Work Statement

Hi Rachael,

Apologies if I missed the survey for this – your previous message to the group [1] indicated that a survey would be coming but I’m not able to find that survey. So, please disregard my suggestions if I missed the commenting period.

[1] https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/w3c-wai-gl/2022JanMar/0056.html


My suggestion on the Work Statement would be to pull up the deliverables described in section called “Approach” into their own section. This would make them easier to find, and make the Work Statement clearer. I also suggest adding milestones and approximate timelines for achieving these milestones and completing the deliverables. It would also be very helpful to add links to existing drafts, backlogs, requirements analysis, and such, to give a better understanding of the work to be done. For example, which updates do you plan for Making Content Usable? Also, is there an initial set of guideline proposals, even if just rough ideas, that you plan to bring into Silver TF and WCAG 3 discussions?

Side note: Some of the bullets in the “Approach” section read to me more like scope of work and others more like deliverables. For example, the bullet “Co-creating guidelines with the Silver TF for WCAG 3.0” is repeated in the list of deliverables below, which indicates that it is more of a deliverable than approach description. Also “Building a use case repository …” and “Documenting business cases …” sound to me like outputs, even if interim milestones.

Best,
  Shadi

---
Shadi Abou-Zahra
Amazon, Devices Accessibility
Principal Standards and Policy Manager
---


From: Bradley-Montgomery, Rachael <rmontgomery@loc.gov<mailto:rmontgomery@loc.gov>>
Sent: Thursday, 10 March, 2022 4:31 AM
To: WCAG list (w3c-wai-gl@w3.org<mailto:w3c-wai-gl@w3.org>) <w3c-wai-gl@w3.org<mailto:w3c-wai-gl@w3.org>>
Subject: [EXTERNAL] CFC - Approve COGA Work Statement


CAUTION: This email originated from outside of the organization. Do not click links or open attachments unless you can confirm the sender and know the content is safe.



Call For Consensus — ends Wednesday, March 23  at 12:00pm Boston time.


This is a Call for Consensus (CfC) to the Accessibility Guidelines Working Group proposing adoption of an updated Work
Statement for our Cognitive and Learning Disabilities (COGA) Task Force.

The proposed new Work Statement is available at the following link:

https://www.w3.org/WAI/GL/task-forces/coga/wiki/DRAFT:_COGA_TF_Work_Statement_2022-2024


This update has been developed over recent months to update the original COGA Work Statement, now almost a decade old. We received no comments back when we emailed a request for review.



If you have concerns about this proposed consensus position that have not been discussed already and feel that those concerns result in you “not being able to live with” this decision, please let the group know before the CfC deadline.

As COGA is a joint Task Force of APA and of the Accessible Guidelines Working Group (AGWG), approval of both groups is required to adopt this updated Work Statement for COGA. Both APA and AG are holding a Call For Consensus on this question.  If you are a member of both groups, please respond to both CFCs.

Kind regards,

Rachael
---
Rachael Bradley Montgomery, PhD
Digital Accessibility Specialist
Library of Congress
Email: rmontgomery@loc.gov<mailto:rmontgomery@loc.gov>



Amazon Development Center Austria GmbH
Brueckenkopfgasse 1
8020 Graz
Oesterreich
Sitz in Graz
Firmenbuchnummer: FN 439453 f
Firmenbuchgericht: Landesgericht fuer Zivilrechtssachen Graz




Amazon Development Center Austria GmbH
Brueckenkopfgasse 1
8020 Graz
Oesterreich
Sitz in Graz
Firmenbuchnummer: FN 439453 f
Firmenbuchgericht: Landesgericht fuer Zivilrechtssachen Graz

Received on Thursday, 10 March 2022 13:19:39 UTC