Re: [Test Reliability] Minutes of Test Reliability meeting of 17 May 2022

Hi, John

Thanks for the feedback.

As we’ve worked on the documents, we have re-named the outcome a few times already, but your suggestion on a potential new title is definitely interesting. As our work is focused on blocks of text rather than individual words, we want to make sure that we have a title that’s properly describes the outcome and doesn’t “interfere” with other groups’ work.

We have talked about including work from the Pronunciation Task Force in the future, but haven’t made a decision on that.

Francis

From: John Foliot <john@foliot.ca>
Date: Tuesday, May 17, 2022 at 07:45
To: Jeanne Spellman <jspellman@spellmanconsulting.com>
Cc: Silver Task Force <public-silver@w3.org>, AG WG <w3c-wai-gl@w3.org>
Subject: Re: [Test Reliability] Minutes of Test Reliability meeting of 17 May 2022
Hello Test Reliability Sub-Group,

Thank you for sharing your most recent meeting minutes. Upon review of the proposed "Pronunciation" work, I wonder aloud if the naming there is correct.

Will this requirement (for example) reference the pronunciation of individual words or phrases - the use-cases<https://www.w3.org/TR/spoken-html/#introduction> that the current Pronunciation Task Force<https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/task-forces/pronunciation/> of the Accessible Platform Architectures Working Group is working on, which is a subset of Speech Synthesis Markup Language (SSML)<https://www.w3.org/TR/speech-synthesis/>? The goal of that group is to ensure the proper pronunciation of individual words, which I do not suspect is the larger goal you are working towards, but it is not clear at this time as you are just starting to work on the draft document<https://docs.google.com/document/d/1nyywZUpB_MjwnjwoLvMW38Mzbru9zftuom_YRDXnScE/edit#heading=h.m3tjcg5jj3eu>.

Nonetheless, if the goal of this effort is not the same as the work being done by the Pronunciation Task Force, might it not be worth considering a name change for this effort? Based on my watching this activity from a distance, is not the current goal more around ensuring proper language packs [sic] are loaded for TTS engines? Might that not then be considered "Language Accuracy" (TTS Accuracy?) as opposed to "Pronunciation"? (Just trying to avoid a term-of-art collision/confusion down the road).

My unsolicited $0.02 worth.

JF

On Tue, May 17, 2022 at 10:08 AM Jeanne Spellman <jspellman@spellmanconsulting.com<mailto:jspellman@spellmanconsulting.com>> wrote:

== Summary ==

  *   We reviewed the proposed survey on the Outcome and Method for Pronunciation and suggested some minor edits for accuracy to the Background.
  *   We created a new How-To document from the template and assigned sections to work on. We ended early to give ourselves some time to work.

== Minutes ==

https://www.w3.org/2022/05/17-silver-reliability-minutes.html


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