Re: Possible draft of 3.2.7

Hi Sarah,

> I had suggested in previous emails redoing the survey, as the original survey question and response options were not clear. Could the chairs facilitate that?

I think the discussion based on the survey was quite clear – we all had different ideas about what would count as a visual indicator.


> In answer to Alastair's questions below, I would respond, “Yes” to all!

I would characterise that as an approach of allowing for context to set expectations of whether things have controls appearing on-hover. In which case:

  1.  The is different from input we’ve had from other people in COGA, where other people were taking a stricter view.
  2.  I don’t see value in the SC if that is the case, it wouldn’t catch very much.

> We need to trust designers and developers judgment and give them agency in meeting SCs in a way that’s appropriate for the context and current conventions.

We also need a way to evaluate pass/fail, otherwise it is advice rather a testable guideline. That isn’t a negative thing, it is covered well in:
https://www.w3.org/TR/coga-usable/#clearly-identify-controls-and-their-use-pattern

It would also fit nicely into the (currently termed) ‘convention tests’ in WCAG3:
https://rawgit.com/w3c/silver/update_test_section/guidelines/index.html#convention-tests

Kind regards,

-Alastair