- From: Sukriti Chadha <sukriti1408@gmail.com>
- Date: Thu, 19 Nov 2020 12:11:08 -0500
- To: Wilco Fiers <wilco.fiers@deque.com>
- Cc: Michael Gower <michael.gower@ca.ibm.com>, Alastair Campbell <acampbell@nomensa.com>, Sarah Horton <sarah.horton@gmail.com>, "WCAG list (w3c-wai-gl@w3.org)" <w3c-wai-gl@w3.org>
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This might be better *For a target, the farthest point on the target is at least 24 CSS pixels away from any point on each of its adjacent target, except if : * On Thu, Nov 19, 2020 at 12:09 PM Sukriti Chadha <sukriti1408@gmail.com> wrote: > *For all adjacent targets, the farthest point of one target is at least 24 > CSS pixels away from the other target, except if:* > > I see what you're saying. Definitely agree that the understanding document > will help clarify. The current wording (above) still remains ambiguous with > level 1 confusion of what is 'one' and what is 'other' and level 2 runs > into the same problem as the second wording of not specifying where on the > 'other target' and might be interpreted as picking one point. > > How's this? > > *For each target, the farthest point on the target is at least 24 CSS > pixels away from any point on each adjacent target, except if : * > > > > On Thu, Nov 19, 2020 at 11:38 AM Wilco Fiers <wilco.fiers@deque.com> > wrote: > >> Sorry, accidental send.... >> >> *The distance between the farthest point from a given target to any point >> on all adjacent targets is at least 24 CSS pixels, except if:* >> >> The problem here is that it now suggests to pick one point in the target >> that is furthest away from every adjacent target, instead of picking a >> different point for each adjacent target. I understand the lack of >> specificity in what I'm suggesting, but this language is accurate. I think >> the way to create more clarity on how to test this is better done in the >> understanding document. >> >> Wilco >> >> >> On Thu, Nov 19, 2020 at 5:24 PM Wilco Fiers <wilco.fiers@deque.com> >> wrote: >> >>> Hey Sukriti, >>> I looked at phrasing the SC the way you suggest before: >>> >>> *The distance between the farthest point from a given target to any >>> point on all adjacent targets is at least 24 CSS pixels, except if:* >>> The problem >>> >>> >>> On Thu, Nov 19, 2020 at 4:36 PM Sukriti Chadha <sukriti1408@gmail.com> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> *For all adjacent targets, the farthest point of one target is at least >>>> 24 CSS pixels away from the other target, except if:* >>>> >>>> The language here is pretty confusing - we need to be more clear about >>>> what is 'one target' and what is 'other target'. Here's a crack at one >>>> >>>> *The distance between the farthest point from a given target to any >>>> point on all adjacent targets is at least 24 CSS pixels, except if:* >>>> >>>> On Thu, Nov 19, 2020 at 10:30 AM Michael Gower < >>>> michael.gower@ca.ibm.com> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Actually, we could even consider making diameter a defined term, thus >>>>> making those measurements normalized. >>>>> Michael Gower >>>>> Senior Consultant in Accessibility >>>>> IBM Design >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> 1803 Douglas Street, Victoria, BC V8T 5C3 >>>>> gowerm@ca.ibm.com >>>>> cellular: (250) 661-0098 * fax: (250) 220-8034 >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> From: Michael Gower/CanWest/IBM >>>>> To: Sukriti Chadha <sukriti1408@gmail.com> >>>>> Cc: Alastair Campbell <acampbell@nomensa.com>, Sarah Horton < >>>>> sarah.horton@gmail.com>, "WCAG list (w3c-wai-gl@w3.org)" < >>>>> w3c-wai-gl@w3.org>, Wilco Fiers <wilco.fiers@deque.com> >>>>> Date: 2020/11/19 07:27 AM >>>>> Subject: Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: Target spacing refinement >>>>> ------------------------------ >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Suktriti, I think the various methods of calculating the diameter of >>>>> shapes (rectangle, triangle) can be provided in the Understanding document, >>>>> including for irregular shapes. >>>>> >>>>> Note that the language Wilco put forward (and for which I have >>>>> suggested minor edits) would replace the language you have listed. The >>>>> preamble would become the following (with the addition of a new diameter >>>>> bullet) >>>>> >>>>> *For all adjacent targets, the farthest point of one target is at >>>>> least 24 CSS pixels away from the other target, except if:* >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Michael Gower >>>>> Senior Consultant in Accessibility >>>>> IBM Design >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> 1803 Douglas Street, Victoria, BC V8T 5C3 >>>>> gowerm@ca.ibm.com >>>>> cellular: (250) 661-0098 * fax: (250) 220-8034 >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> From: Sukriti Chadha <sukriti1408@gmail.com> >>>>> To: Michael Gower <michael.gower@ca.ibm.com> >>>>> Cc: Alastair Campbell <acampbell@nomensa.com>, Sarah Horton < >>>>> sarah.horton@gmail.com>, Wilco Fiers <wilco.fiers@deque.com>, "WCAG >>>>> list (w3c-wai-gl@w3.org)" <w3c-wai-gl@w3.org> >>>>> Date: 2020/11/19 07:14 AM >>>>> Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: Target spacing refinement >>>>> ------------------------------ >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Thank you Alaistar, Wilco, Detlev and Michael for all the examples,... >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> *This Message Is From an External Sender* >>>>> This message came from outside your organization. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Thank you Alaistar, Wilco, Detlev and Michael for all the examples, >>>>> those are incredibly helpful! While I like the approach of diameters from a >>>>> mathematical standpoint, it might be confusing when implementing as a >>>>> developer, given most targets are confined in rectangular spaces, even if >>>>> the visible targets might be irregularly shaped. This was brought up before >>>>> and the group decided not to pursue that route for similar reasons. I have >>>>> one small edit to #5 to clarify where on the adjacent target. The SC reads, >>>>> where "from the closest edge" is the new text : >>>>> >>>>> *For each target, the distance from the closest edge of each adjacent >>>>> target to the farthest edge of the current target is at least 24 CSS pixels >>>>> except when*” >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Thu, Nov 19, 2020 at 10:05 AM Michael Gower < >>>>> *michael.gower@ca.ibm.com* <michael.gower@ca.ibm.com>> wrote: >>>>> Wilco and Detlev, thanks for working up another treatment. I agree >>>>> with Wilco that the parenthetical wording isn't required (it can be >>>>> clarified in the Understanding), so we end up with >>>>> *For all adjacent targets, the distance from the farthest point of one >>>>> target is at least 24 CSS pixels away from the other target, except if:* >>>>> >>>>> - *Diameter**: The smallest diameter is at least 24 CSS pixels;* >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> I believe this rewording could even be further reduced by having >>>>> "distance from the" removed, to become >>>>> *For all adjacent targets, the farthest point of one target is at >>>>> least 24 CSS pixels away from the other target, except if:* >>>>> >>>>> Wilco, thanks for all those examples. My only request going forward if >>>>> you ever go to this trouble again, that you label or otherwise provide a >>>>> key for your expected outcome. (made up example: 'All example Ds should >>>>> fail'). That would help each of us scan to see if we're in agreement on >>>>> that outcome, and then scan to see what the real outcome was. IMO, a matrix >>>>> of examples like this would be beneficial in the Understanding document. >>>>> >>>>> Sarah, I echo Alastair's comments on size. For example, those little >>>>> Xs in the corners of dialogs are universal (and have another mechanism for >>>>> dismissal on the desktop, via the keyboard) and if we come up with wording >>>>> that fails them, we would have a hard time getting traction. >>>>> >>>>> Michael Gower >>>>> Senior Consultant in Accessibility >>>>> IBM Design >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> 1803 Douglas Street, Victoria, BC V8T 5C3 >>>>> *gowerm@ca.ibm.com* <gowerm@ca.ibm.com> >>>>> cellular: (250) 661-0098 * fax: (250) 220-8034 >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> From: Alastair Campbell <*acampbell@nomensa.com* >>>>> <acampbell@nomensa.com>> >>>>> To: Sarah Horton <*sarah.horton@gmail.com* >>>>> <sarah.horton@gmail.com>> >>>>> Cc: Wilco Fiers <*wilco.fiers@deque.com* >>>>> <wilco.fiers@deque.com>>, "WCAG list (*w3c-wai-gl@w3.org* >>>>> <w3c-wai-gl@w3.org>)" <*w3c-wai-gl@w3.org* <w3c-wai-gl@w3.org>> >>>>> Date: 2020/11/19 04:58 AM >>>>> Subject: [EXTERNAL] RE: Target spacing refinement >>>>> ------------------------------ >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Hi Sarah, We do have an SC that addresses target size, but it is... >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> *This Message Is From an External Sender* >>>>> This message came from outside your organization. >>>>> >>>>> Hi Sarah, >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> We do have an SC that addresses target size, but it is at AAA. This is >>>>> the “other” SC that allows more flexibility so is aiming at AA. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> If we try and incorporate a minimum size as well as size+ spacing into >>>>> one SC, I think that would make it more convoluted. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Also, if the user-need is met by targets+spacing (as described in the >>>>> previous email), we would get significant push-back on asking authors to >>>>> spend lots of time doing things that don’t actually help users. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> I appreciate the need, but we also have to note that it conflicts with >>>>> other needs, such as some people with low-vision ( >>>>> *https://github.com/w3c/wcag/issues/1381* >>>>> <https://github.com/w3c/wcag/issues/1381>) and the ability to create >>>>> information-dense interfaces. We’ve reduced the size requirement to >>>>> compromise, it’s then a balance between competing requirements. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> With user-group conflicts the better approach is often personalisation >>>>> options rather than author requirements. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> So the question becomes: Is this SC a baseline worth having? >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Kind regards, >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -Alastair >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> *From:*Sarah Horton <*sarah.horton@gmail.com* <sarah.horton@gmail.com>> >>>>> >>>>> *Sent:* 19 November 2020 11:22 >>>>> *To:* Alastair Campbell <*acampbell@nomensa.com* >>>>> <acampbell@nomensa.com>> >>>>> *Cc:* Wilco Fiers <*wilco.fiers@deque.com* <wilco.fiers@deque.com>>; >>>>> WCAG list (*w3c-wai-gl@w3.org* <w3c-wai-gl@w3.org>) < >>>>> *w3c-wai-gl@w3.org* <w3c-wai-gl@w3.org>> >>>>> *Subject:* Re: Target spacing refinement >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Without an SC that addresses minimum target size I think this target >>>>> spacing SC is going to end up confusing and convoluted, and will not >>>>> address the real and significant user need for a minimum target size. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> What about trying for two new SCs, one for target size and one for >>>>> target spacing, either as part of the WCAG 2.2 effort or in whatever comes >>>>> next (2.3 or 3.0)? >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Best, >>>>> >>>>> Sarah >>>>> >>>>> On Nov 19, 2020, at 11:06 AM, Alastair Campbell < >>>>> *acampbell@nomensa.com* <acampbell@nomensa.com>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> > The only two that I question are A4 and D1. Those are just so >>>>> small... If we added an absolute minimum diameter of 12px for every target >>>>> those two would fail without changing any of the other ones. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Part of the reasoning for this SC was that, in touch-scenarios, the >>>>> devices use heuristics to guess which thing you meant to tap. I.e. if you >>>>> tap reasonably close to a link it generally works because the device finds >>>>> the nearest link. However, if you have small links close to each other >>>>> that heuristic can make the wrong choice because you accidentally tapped >>>>> closer to an adjacent target. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> That’s why it is size+spacing rather than just size, and why we >>>>> weren’t trying to set a minimum size as such. (Although it Patrick were >>>>> reading this, he’d pipe in with “what about mouse users?”, which is fair, >>>>> but it’s hard to accomplish everything in one SC.) >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Also, I’m worried about adding complexity to (necessarily) convoluted >>>>> SC text… >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -Alastair >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> *From:*Wilco Fiers <*wilco.fiers@deque.com* <wilco.fiers@deque.com>> >>>>> *Sent:* 19 November 2020 10:36 >>>>> *To:* Alastair Campbell <*acampbell@nomensa.com* >>>>> <acampbell@nomensa.com>> >>>>> *Cc:* WCAG list (*w3c-wai-gl@w3.org* <w3c-wai-gl@w3.org>) < >>>>> *w3c-wai-gl@w3.org* <w3c-wai-gl@w3.org>> >>>>> *Subject:* Re: Target spacing refinement >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Hey Alastair, >>>>> >>>>> You are correct, I made a mistake on H3. There is just enough space >>>>> for the outer box to pass. I've fixed that, and added an example that's >>>>> similar but where the box is rounded (N1 - N4) >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> As for E3 and E4, I think it is okay for those to fail. They are more >>>>> difficult to hit than some of the other fails like G4 and H4. I think this >>>>> actually strikes a good balance. The only two that I question are A4 and >>>>> D1. Those are just so small... even if someone isn't likely to hit the >>>>> wrong thing, it'll be hard to hit. If we added an absolute minimum diameter >>>>> of 12px for every target those two would fail without changing any of the >>>>> other ones. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Thu, Nov 19, 2020 at 2:04 AM Alastair Campbell < >>>>> *acampbell@nomensa.com* <acampbell@nomensa.com>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> HI Wilco, >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> That’s great! Thanks for putting that together. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> > Unfortunately, none of the proposals actually gets all of them right. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> I think we might need to discuss ‘right’ in this context. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> The previous wording from the FPWD did allow examples like E3/E4 >>>>> assuming there were no other targets to consider: >>>>> >>>>> <image007.png> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> But is that a good thing? The newer wording means that the proximity >>>>> of the small targets to another target causes a fail. I think that aligns >>>>> with the intent. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> When we get down to the overlapping examples I’m not sure that >>>>> interpretation is correct? >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Taking H3 as an example: >>>>> >>>>> <image008.png> >>>>> >>>>> The red square is 60 wide, the green is 24 + 12 left-padding, so there >>>>> is 24px of the parent on the right-hand side. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> With a wording of “*For each target, the distance from each adjacent >>>>> target to the farthest edge of the current target is at least 24 CSS pixels >>>>> except when*” >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> The green target fits the exception bullet, but for the red one: >>>>> >>>>> - We can consider the green target as “adjacent”; >>>>> - The farthest edge of the red target from the green target is >>>>> 24px – pass. >>>>> >>>>> I agree that H4 would fail, and I think most of the others. I’m not >>>>> clear about L2, I can’t see how much space is between those circles? For a >>>>> circle I think we have to treat the furthest point as the ‘edge’. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Kind regards, >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -Alastair >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> *From:*Wilco Fiers <*wilco.fiers@deque.com* <wilco.fiers@deque.com>> >>>>> *Sent:* 18 November 2020 16:16 >>>>> *To:* Alastair Campbell <*acampbell@nomensa.com* >>>>> <acampbell@nomensa.com>> >>>>> *Cc:* Michael Gower <*michael.gower@ca.ibm.com* >>>>> <michael.gower@ca.ibm.com>>; WCAG list (*w3c-wai-gl@w3.org* >>>>> <w3c-wai-gl@w3.org>) <*w3c-wai-gl@w3.org* <w3c-wai-gl@w3.org>> >>>>> *Subject:* Re: Target spacing refinement >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Hey folks, >>>>> >>>>> I did what I always do when rules get too complex. I write test cases. >>>>> Here's what I wrote. I used color gradients to indicate passes and fails. >>>>> Light green to dark green is passed, dark red to pink is fail. >>>>> >>>>> *https://codepen.io/wilcofiers/pen/abZxPow* >>>>> <https://codepen.io/wilcofiers/pen/abZxPow> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Unfortunately, none of the proposals actually gets all of them right. >>>>> So this is going to need more work. I'll see if I can come up with a >>>>> proposal that gets all cases right. Probably worth for folks to have a >>>>> look, see if we're all in agreement on these. Maybe most noteworthy are E3 >>>>> and E4. Those corner blocks pass with the currently published SC text, but >>>>> they fail in all of the new . >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Wed, Nov 18, 2020 at 4:41 PM Alastair Campbell < >>>>> *acampbell@nomensa.com* <acampbell@nomensa.com>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Hi Michael, >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Tackling the second one: >>>>> >>>>> > *The distance from each target's mid-point to the mid-point of >>>>> adjacent targets is at least 24 CSS pixels, expect when...* >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Measuring from mid-points allows for tiny targets next to larger ones, >>>>> e.g: >>>>> >>>>> <image009.png> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Although easier to understand (slightly), I don’t think it aligns to >>>>> the goal quite as well. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> For the re-write of option 5, I think it would need to start with the >>>>> thing you are evaluating, e.g: >>>>> >>>>> *For each target, the distance from each adjacent target to the >>>>> farthest edge of the current target is at least 24 CSS pixels except when:* >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> If others think that scans ok, I’m happy with that. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Regarding the ‘objectives’, I think we can easily include that on the >>>>> new understanding docs at the top of the intent, and work back through the >>>>> 2.1/2.0 docs later. >>>>> >>>>> The upcoming re-design looks like this for the understanding doc: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> *https://w3c.github.io/wai-wcag-supporting-documents-redesign/2020-07-15-prototype-understanding.html* >>>>> <https://w3c.github.io/wai-wcag-supporting-documents-redesign/2020-07-15-prototype-understanding.html> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> We can add a CSS class to the objective paragraph and work out the >>>>> styling in parallel. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Cheers, >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -Alastair >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> *From:*Michael Gower >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> I agree option 5 *seems *to scan best, but I also think there is a >>>>> missing preposition. There are 2 ideas here: >>>>> 1) we are talking about the edge *farthest from* an adjacent target >>>>> 2) we are talking about the distance* from *that edge *to* the >>>>> adjacent target (or *between *them) >>>>> >>>>> So I think we need 2 prepositions, one to describe which edge and one >>>>> to describe the distance *between* two points. i think a rejig of the >>>>> sentence still allows that to scan okay: >>>>> *The distance from each adjacent target to the farthest edge of the >>>>> current target is at least 24 CSS pixels.* >>>>> >>>>> I think we need to bear in mind that this is a design-centric >>>>> consideration. As such, it is even more important to get the >>>>> language/concept simple. As such, I want to advocate for a variation I >>>>> pasted into the channel yesterday: >>>>> >>>>> *The distance from each target's mid-point to the mid-point of >>>>> adjacent targets is at least 24 CSS pixels, expect when...* >>>>> >>>>> AWK said that this wouldn't work for some edge cases, but I'd like to >>>>> see some examples to understand what gets through the net. >>>>> >>>>> Regardless of wording, this is another SC where a quick blurb >>>>> summarizing the objective would help with rapid comprehension. For instance: >>>>> *Objective: Ensure separation of targets for ease of operation.* >>>>> I wrote such blurbs for all the 2.1 additions, which were supposed to >>>>> be included in the Understanding documents, but were never incorporated. >>>>> >>>>> Michael Gower >>>>> Senior Consultant in Accessibility >>>>> IBM Design >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> 1803 Douglas Street, Victoria, BC V8T 5C3 >>>>> *gowerm@ca.ibm.com* <gowerm@ca.ibm.com> >>>>> cellular: (250) 661-0098 * fax: (250) 220-8034 >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> From: Alastair Campbell <*acampbell@nomensa.com* >>>>> <acampbell@nomensa.com>> >>>>> To: "WCAG list (*w3c-wai-gl@w3.org* <w3c-wai-gl@w3.org>)" < >>>>> *w3c-wai-gl@w3.org* <w3c-wai-gl@w3.org>> >>>>> Date: 2020/11/17 04:34 PM >>>>> Subject: [EXTERNAL] Target spacing refinement >>>>> ------------------------------ >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Hi everyone, After the long discussion on target spacing today,... >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> *This Message Is From an External Sender* >>>>> This message came from outside your organization. >>>>> >>>>> Hi everyone, >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> After the long discussion on target spacing today, I tried to collate >>>>> the options into one place and add a couple of diagrams: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> *https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Q9zWT1OjdCrts2xuadVEaJ2wpyLzxnysFQCSTs72L2o/edit?usp=sharing* >>>>> <https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Q9zWT1OjdCrts2xuadVEaJ2wpyLzxnysFQCSTs72L2o/edit?usp=sharing> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Personally, I’m leaning towards option 5 as the simplest which >>>>> measures the size+spacing of the target, which would be: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> For each target, the distance of the target’s edge farthest from each >>>>> adjacent target is at least 24 CSS pixels, except when: >>>>> >>>>> - [3 bullets unchanged] >>>>> - *Nested:* The target is enclosed within another target and has a >>>>> minimum height and width of 24 CSS pixels. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> If you’d like to add something (options, positives/negatives, diagrams >>>>> etc) please let me know and I’ll add you as an editor of the doc. It is >>>>> open for comments. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Kind regards, >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -Alastair >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> @alastc / *www.nomensa.com* <http://www.nomensa.com/> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> >>>>> *Wilco Fiers* >>>>> >>>>> Axe-core product owner - Co-facilitator WCAG-ACT - Chair ACT-R >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Join me at *axe-con* <http://deque.com/axe-con>2021: a free digital >>>>> accessibility conference. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> >>>>> *Wilco Fiers* >>>>> >>>>> Axe-core product owner - Co-facilitator WCAG-ACT - Chair ACT-R >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Join me at *axe-con* <http://deque.com/axe-con>2021: a free digital >>>>> accessibility conference. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>> >>> -- >>> *Wilco Fiers* >>> Axe-core product owner - Co-facilitator WCAG-ACT - Chair ACT-R >>> >>> >>> Join me at axe-con <http://deque.com/axe-con> 2021: a free digital >>> accessibility conference. >>> >> >> >> -- >> *Wilco Fiers* >> Axe-core product owner - Co-facilitator WCAG-ACT - Chair ACT-R >> >> >> Join me at axe-con <http://deque.com/axe-con> 2021: a free digital >> accessibility conference. >> >
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