- From: Rachael Bradley Montgomery <rachael@accessiblecommunity.org>
- Date: Mon, 9 Nov 2020 12:42:50 -0500
- To: David Fazio <dfazio@helixopp.com>
- Cc: WCAG <w3c-wai-gl@w3.org>, Silver TF <public-silver@w3.org>
- Message-ID: <CAL+jyYLSreuiXS99TNdcYFqD1ik_JbLvWtd3-OY6+gpq97FMEw@mail.gmail.com>
Hello David, Please take a look at pull request 212 <https://github.com/w3c/silver/pull/212/files> which has removed the phrase "and more modern" from the abstract. You can see the full text at https://raw.githack.com/w3c/silver/cfc_objection_1/guidelines/index.html Does this address your concern such that you would change your objection to a 0 or are additional changes needed? Best regards, Rachael On Mon, Nov 2, 2020 at 1:52 PM David Fazio <dfazio@helixopp.com> wrote: > I hate to be the voice of dissent, but I’m a -1 because of the following > Abstract: > > > > W3C Accessibility Guidelines 3.0 is a successor to Web Content > Accessibility Guidelines 2.2 <https://www.w3.org/TR/WCAG22/> [*WCAG22 > <https://w3c.github.io/silver/guidelines/#bib-wcag22>*] and previous > versions, but does not deprecate > <https://w3c.github.io/silver/guidelines/#dfn-deprecate> these versions. > WCAG 3.0 will incorporate content from and partially extend User Agent > Accessibility Guidelines 2.0 <https://www.w3.org/TR/UAAG20/> [*UAAG20 > <https://w3c.github.io/silver/guidelines/#bib-uaag20>*] and Authoring > Tool Accessibility Guidelines 2.0 <https://www.w3.org/TR/ATAG20/>[*ATAG20 > <https://w3c.github.io/silver/guidelines/#bib-atag20>*]. While there is a > lot of overlap between WCAG 2.X and WCAG 3.0, WCAG 3.0 includes additional > tests and different scoring mechanisms. As a result, WCAG 3.0 is not > backwards compatible with WCAG 2.X. WCAG 3.0 does not supersede WCAG 2.2 > and previous versions; rather, it is an *alternative and more modern set > of guidelines*. Once these guidelines become a W3C Recommendation, > the W3C will advise developers, content creators and policy makers to use > WCAG 3.0 in order to maximize future applicability of accessibility > efforts. However, content that conforms to earlier versions of WCAG > continue to conform to those versions. > > > > *This introduction, to me, implies that WCAG 2... is obsolete given the > evolution of the web. Defendants can easily argue that courts should not > hold them accountable to a standard that is no longer good enough for the > current state of the web. I continue to believe that WCAG 2 should be > incorporated into WCAG 3 at least as a baseline building block, and be made > backwards compatible. Although, I recognize I am just 1 voice. * > > > > *I would be a 0 if we removed the statement about it being a more modern > set of guidelines and everything after that. That content opens too many > doors to sink WCAG 2 in court, in my opinion.* > > > > > > *David Fazio, President | **[image: signature_777599446] > <https://www.linkedin.com/in/davidpfazio/>* > > [image: A picture containing sitting Description automatically generated]| > [image: signature_242308129] > <https://www.linkedin.com/company/helixopportunity> > > *P. 510.590.7363| e. dfazio@helixopp.com <dfazio@helixopp.com>| W. > www.helixopp.com <http://www.helixopp.com>* > > > > > > > > > > *From: *Rachael Bradley Montgomery <rachael@accessiblecommunity.org> > *Date: *Friday, October 30, 2020 at 10:23 AM > *To: *WCAG <w3c-wai-gl@w3.org>, Silver TF <public-silver@w3.org> > *Subject: *Extending CFC - Publish WCAG 3.0 as FPWD > > Hello, > > > > To provide additional time for people to review the acknowledgements > section <https://w3c.github.io/silver/guidelines/#acknowledgements>, we > are extending the deadline for the FPWD CFC to Monday at 2pm Boston time. > > > > > The acknowledgements were originally left out of the original CFC. Michael > sent them out earlier this week, but we want to provide some additional > time to make sure everyone has had a chance to review the section. > > > > Please take a few moments to read through the acknowledgements section and > make sure everyone is included and names are spelled correctly. > > > > Thank you, > > > > Rachael > > > > On Fri, Oct 23, 2020 at 1:38 PM Rachael Bradley Montgomery < > rachael@accessiblecommunity.org> wrote: > > Call For Consensus — ends Friday October 30th at 2:00 pm Boston time. > > > > The Working Group and Silver Taskforce have discussed publishing W3C > Accessibility Guidelines (WCAG) 3.0 as a First Public Working Draft (FPWD). > > > > The document is at: https://w3c.github.io/silver/guidelines/ > > > > Call minutes: > > · 1 September AGWG & Silver Meeting Minutes > <https://www.w3.org/2020/09/01-ag-minutes.html> > > · 15 September AGWG & Silver Meeting Minutes > <https://www.w3.org/2020/09/15-ag-minutes.html> > > · 6 October AGWG & Silver Meeting Minutes > <https://www.w3.org/2020/10/06-ag-minutes.html> > > · 20 October AGWG & Silver Meeting Minutes > <https://www.w3.org/2020/10/20-ag-minutes.html#item03> > > Changes are viewable through the diffs at > https://github.com/w3c/silver/commits/master/guidelines/index.html > > > > If you have concerns about this proposed consensus position that have not > been discussed already and feel that those concerns result in you “not > being able to live with” this decision, please let the group know before > the CfC deadline. > > > > Kind regards, > > > > Rachael > > > > -- > > Rachael Montgomery, PhD > > Director, Accessible Community > > rachael@accessiblecommunity.org > > > > "I will paint this day with laughter; > > I will frame this night in song." > > - Og Mandino > > > > > > > -- > > Rachael Montgomery, PhD > > Director, Accessible Community > > rachael@accessiblecommunity.org > > > > "I will paint this day with laughter; > > I will frame this night in song." > > - Og Mandino > > > -- Rachael Montgomery, PhD Director, Accessible Community rachael@accessiblecommunity.org "I will paint this day with laughter; I will frame this night in song." - Og Mandino
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