- From: Wilco Fiers <wilco.fiers@deque.com>
- Date: Mon, 9 Dec 2019 10:46:31 +0100
- To: Alastair Campbell <acampbell@nomensa.com>
- Cc: WCAG list <w3c-wai-gl@w3.org>
- Message-ID: <CAHVyjGMvapdn+jbvC+w_tYz4-fLH1ucQNNYq_GsnKd6zSL85wg@mail.gmail.com>
Hey Alastair, I don't intend to hold up publication. I'll comment on the first draft instead. W On Sun, Dec 8, 2019 at 2:42 PM Alastair Campbell <acampbell@nomensa.com> wrote: > Hi Wilco, > > > > Putting the SC-writers hat on, rather than chair’s: > > > > > 1. Buttons where a change in background color is used to indicate focus. > > > > This was one of the examples we discussed [1], and having a subtle change > of background color is one of the bad-case scenarios we want to catch (for > focus), it is hard to follow. > > > > So yes, you would often have to flip the foreground text color as well. > Having done a lot of examples for discussion, that one isn’t in the > understanding document, would it help if it were included? > > > > > > > 2. Buttons with a dark background, surrounded by a white background, > using an outline to indicate focus. In this scenario the outline is > required to have a 3:1 contrast ratio with both the dark background, as > well as the white surroundings. > > > > There are several options there. If you want it to be outside the button > and adjacent, then yes it is hard to meet, and hard to see! > > > > Other options discussed in the understanding doc include: > > - The outline separated from the button by a pixel or more. > - The outline goes inside the button. > - The outline is thicker than 1px. > > > > The ‘Contrast and thickness’ section is dedicated to that question. > > > > > > > Not allowing outline (without offset) for an entire range of colors > suggests to me this is too strict. I'm guessing this was unintentional? > > > > No, that was intentional. That type of indicator can be very hard or > impossible to see. Even having 1px separation (for a 1px outline) is not > ideal, but that was the compromise. > > > > Have a look through the examples [1] to see what we used to refine the > requirement. > > > > Cheers, > > > > -Alastair > > > > 1] https://alastairc.uk/tests/wcag22-examples/focus-more-visible.html > > https://alastairc.uk/tests/wcag22-examples/focus-more-visible-2.html > > https://alastairc.uk/tests/wcag22-examples/focus-visible-enh-examples.html > -- *Wilco Fiers* Axe for Web product owner - Co-facilitator WCAG-ACT - Chair ACT-R
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