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Re: Proposed amendment to 1.4.11 for WCAG 2.2

From: Wilco Fiers <wilco.fiers@deque.com>
Date: Thu, 17 Oct 2019 21:09:33 +0200
Message-ID: <CAHVyjGNc4rCYcAT6v+isAh8DLik+b9JPJQ3Fpy2eKZnWpevhow@mail.gmail.com>
To: Alastair Campbell <acampbell@nomensa.com>
Cc: John Foliot <john.foliot@deque.com>, WCAG <w3c-wai-gl@w3.org>
-1 to this and any other change changing existing success criteria.

On Thu, Oct 17, 2019 at 6:13 PM Alastair Campbell <acampbell@nomensa.com>
wrote:

> John wrote:
>
> > FWIW, I have never agreed with Alastair's interpretation there, because
> focus indication (and contrast) is (should be?) primarily between the
> control *and the background*, and not between the control itself in
> various states (although that too can be a consideration).
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>
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> Unfortunately the normative text doesn’t cover focus states as effectively
> as we wanted, however you read it.
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> Focus indicators have far more variety than can be covered with a simple
> test of adjacent colors as the focus indicator might be:
>
>    - Inside the component (so background outside the component is
>    irrelevant)
>    - Adjacent to the component (where both component and background are
>    relevant)
>    - Outside of the component.
>    - A bit of everything!
>
>
>
> See these examples:
>
> https://alastairc.uk/tests/wcag22-examples/focus-more-visible-2.html
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> If you have a look through the proposed text for focus-vis-enh:
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> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1g9_WBgfhViWAaRFIWWt10CP5rBsEVIWm3vT1vWqrHvI/edit?ts=5d124fb5#heading=h.plthklel93td
>
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> That accounts for both the * change* of contrast (the most important
> perceptual factor), and the adjacent colours (secondary but important in
> some cases). I think that is a more robust solution all around.
>
>
>
> Regarding the proposed update to 1.4.11, I think it makes sense but we
> need to think through how the versions work together. Is it better as an
> errata to 2.1 (which would be simpler for understanding/technique docs), or
> for 2.2 onwards?
>
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>
> Cheers,
>
>
>
> -Alastair
>


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*Wilco Fiers*
Axe for Web product owner - Co-facilitator WCAG-ACT - Chair ACT-R

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