- From: Wilco Fiers <wilco.fiers@deque.com>
- Date: Thu, 17 Oct 2019 21:09:33 +0200
- To: Alastair Campbell <acampbell@nomensa.com>
- Cc: John Foliot <john.foliot@deque.com>, WCAG <w3c-wai-gl@w3.org>
- Message-ID: <CAHVyjGNc4rCYcAT6v+isAh8DLik+b9JPJQ3Fpy2eKZnWpevhow@mail.gmail.com>
-1 to this and any other change changing existing success criteria. On Thu, Oct 17, 2019 at 6:13 PM Alastair Campbell <acampbell@nomensa.com> wrote: > John wrote: > > > FWIW, I have never agreed with Alastair's interpretation there, because > focus indication (and contrast) is (should be?) primarily between the > control *and the background*, and not between the control itself in > various states (although that too can be a consideration). > > > > Unfortunately the normative text doesn’t cover focus states as effectively > as we wanted, however you read it. > > > > Focus indicators have far more variety than can be covered with a simple > test of adjacent colors as the focus indicator might be: > > - Inside the component (so background outside the component is > irrelevant) > - Adjacent to the component (where both component and background are > relevant) > - Outside of the component. > - A bit of everything! > > > > See these examples: > > https://alastairc.uk/tests/wcag22-examples/focus-more-visible-2.html > > > > If you have a look through the proposed text for focus-vis-enh: > > > https://docs.google.com/document/d/1g9_WBgfhViWAaRFIWWt10CP5rBsEVIWm3vT1vWqrHvI/edit?ts=5d124fb5#heading=h.plthklel93td > > > > That accounts for both the * change* of contrast (the most important > perceptual factor), and the adjacent colours (secondary but important in > some cases). I think that is a more robust solution all around. > > > > Regarding the proposed update to 1.4.11, I think it makes sense but we > need to think through how the versions work together. Is it better as an > errata to 2.1 (which would be simpler for understanding/technique docs), or > for 2.2 onwards? > > > > Cheers, > > > > -Alastair > -- *Wilco Fiers* Axe for Web product owner - Co-facilitator WCAG-ACT - Chair ACT-R
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