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Re: Silver Conformance Proposal (draft)

From: Léonie Watson <tink@tink.uk>
Date: Sat, 26 Jan 2019 12:33:36 +0000
To: Jeanne Spellman <jspellman@spellmanconsulting.com>, AG WG <w3c-wai-gl@w3.org>
Message-ID: <fbb63724-8990-3393-f048-cbb77bfd0356@tink.uk>
Thanks for this jeanne. My first impression is that it's a good system 
that encourages the right approach to accessible implementations. A 
handful of comments...

I'm not sure I understand the purpose of the "ease of implementation" 
points. Unless I'm misunderstanding it, it seems as though people who 
use modern standards based technologies would be penalised because 
solutions are more likely to be easily implementable, than those using 
legacy technologies where implementation is more difficult?

The suggestion to "grandfather" existing WCAG2.1 Level AA 
implementations to Bronze status seems inadviseable to me. Unless there 
is a direct mapping of Level AA to Bronze, which seems unlikely given 
the distinctly different methodologies, I think it will cause confusion 
in different ways:

* Users will not know whether an implementation is Level AA or Bronze.
* Lawyers will not know which set of guidelines to use as reference in 
legal cases.
* Developers/creators might be tempted to hit Level AA then use the 
"grandfather" clause to migrate to the new standard, as an easy path to 
a better standard of implementation.
* Generally speaking such automatic migration doesn't happen in 
standards, and breaking with that tradition seems counter-productive.

I agree that combining the creation of a new set of guidelines and 
creation of a certification programme, is not a good idea. Not least 
because the political and logistical ramifications of creating a 
certification programme are enormous, and would almost certainly slow 
down the entire project if it were attempted now.

I know it's only an example, but where the proposal says if you're 
evaluating a home assistant device the user need of limited vision will 
not apply, I do not think this is the case. Recent generations of the 
Echo have screens built into them, and all generations have the 
capability to output spoken content to cards displayed on the Alexa 
website or app.

Keep up the good work. This is looking incredibly promising!


Léonie.

On 04/01/2019 20:12, Jeanne Spellman wrote:
> The Silver Task Force and Community Group have been working on the 
> Silver prototype on Conformance.  This has been a challenging task with 
> a lot of moving parts that all have to work together. We wanted to share 
> our ideas in the Draft document we have been putting together with AGWG 
> to get your feedback before any of the ideas are too "baked" that they 
> become difficult to change.
> 
> We have highlighted or commented on alternate proposals, items that need 
> more work, and areas where we don't have consensus yet.
> 
> Your comments are welcome.  You can comment in the Google Doc document 
> itself (public comment permissions are turned on) or in this email thread.
> 
> Silver Conformance Proposal Draft 
> <https://docs.google.com/document/d/1wTJme7ZhhtzyWBxI8oMXzl7i4QHW7aDHRYTKXKELPcY/edit#heading=h.6oetdyu21wzd>
> 
> Shawn and I will be attending an upcoming AGWG meeting to answer 
> questions and to listen to your comments and ideas.
> 
> Jeanne Spellman
> Shawn Lauriat
> 

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