Re: Draft for process updates

> each company gets 1 vote on CfCs and Rec Track consensus decisions.


Where
​would
that leave invited experts
​ like David McDonald and Makoto Ueki​
?
​ And if each Invited Expert gets a vote, why would other participants who
show up every week and do the hard work get less of a "vote"?​

​Additionally, the W3C's Official Process is less about "votes" and more
about consensus, and has (IMHO) already addressed this concern in the
Managing Dissent section of the official Process Document:

*Managing Dissent*


In some cases, even after careful consideration of all points of view, a
group might find itself unable to reach consensus. The Chair may record a
decision where there is dissent (i.e., there is at least one Formal
Objection) so that the group can make progress (for example, to produce a
deliverable in a timely manner). *Dissenters cannot stop a group's work
simply by saying that they cannot live with a decision*. When the Chair
believes that the Group has duly considered the legitimate concerns of
dissenters as far as is possible and reasonable, the group should move on.

Groups should favor proposals that create the weakest objections. This is
preferred over proposals that are supported by a large majority but that
cause strong objections from a few people. As part of making a decision
where there is dissent, the Chair is expected to be aware of which
participants work for the same (or related) Member organizations and weigh
their input accordingly.​


​(source: https://www.w3.org/2018/Process-20180201/#managing-dissent)​


Personally, I have faith in our Chairs, and their ability to weigh "block
votes" accordingly, and I would be quite concerned if we as a Working Group
sought to change the Official W3C Process
​ - I will suggest it is out of scope for our group. The concern is not
unique to this Working Group, and while the Process may not be 'perfect', I
trust that it works sufficiently well that any other option is less
preferable at this time.

JF​



On Tue, Jul 17, 2018 at 9:10 AM, Alastair Campbell <acampbell@nomensa.com>
wrote:

> Sorry, where I wrote:
>
> > To do a non-private comment you'll need to wait for the survey.
>
>
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> The survey is already available:
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>    - A Web-Based Survey at https://www.w3.org/2002/09/
>    wbs/35422/processfeedback/
>
> Thanks,
>
>
>
> -Alastair
>
>
>
> (NB: I will try to refrain from my phone in future!)
>



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