Re: What to work on next

A "clear enough vision for Silver" hopefully will be built around 'quality'
and 'completeness' of the specification, and a true consensus around
publication - over some arbitrary browser spec-like driven timeline. A
charter can (and should) prioritize how it chooses - and
push-back/negotiate on harmful constraints.

On Mon, Jul 9, 2018, 6:54 PM Andrew Kirkpatrick <akirkpat@adobe.com> wrote:

> I think that we all would prefer to be focusing our energies on the next
> big thing, but this gets us into the practical realities of doing so.
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> My key questions:
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> What if we knew that silver would take 18 months to publish? 4 years to
> publish?
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> Do we have a clear enough vision for Silver that we would be able to
> successfully recharter?
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> This is why we need to talk about the Silver requirements now, so we can
> figure out enough about the overall project to make good guesses about how
> it will take shape.
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> Thanks,
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> AWK
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> Andrew Kirkpatrick
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> Head of Accessibility
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> Adobe
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> *From: *"Newton, Brooks (Legal)" <Brooks.Newton@thomsonreuters.com>
> *Date: *Monday, July 9, 2018 at 13:34
> *To: *Mike Elledge <melledge@yahoo.com>, David MacDonald <
> david@can-adapt.com>, WCAG <w3c-wai-gl@w3.org>, "White, Jason J" <
> jjwhite@ets.org>
> *Subject: *RE: RE: What to work on next
> *Resent-From: *WCAG <w3c-wai-gl@w3.org>
> *Resent-Date: *Monday, July 9, 2018 at 13:34
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> I’m onboard with moving to Silver next.  We need all of our talent and
> experience focused on developing a single standard.
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> Brooks
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> *From:* Mike Elledge [mailto:melledge@yahoo.com]
> *Sent:* Monday, July 09, 2018 3:26 PM
> *To:* David MacDonald <david@can-adapt.com>; WCAG <w3c-wai-gl@w3.org>;
> White, Jason J <jjwhite@ets.org>
> *Subject:* Re: RE: What to work on next
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> This makes sense to me also.
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> On Monday, July 9, 2018, 4:24:35 PM EDT, White, Jason J <jjwhite@ets.org>
> wrote:
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> I support David’s analysis here. It seems to me that the difficulties
> encountered in extending WCAG 2.x are largely attributable to problems with
> its design and assumptions, which only Silver offers the opportunity to
> revisit.
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> I also agree with David that extending WCAG 2.x further would offer
> diminishing returns relative to the work required to do so, and that
> focusing on Silver would be a more productive effort. In addition, a
> possible WCAG 2.2 would have a very limited life-time, as it would probably
> be superseded by Silver within a few years – assuming that the schedule of
> the latter remains reasonable. I’m allowing for some slippage in that
> regard, but even so, I think the point still holds.
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> *From:* David MacDonald <david@can-adapt.com>
> *Sent:* Monday, July 9, 2018 3:00 PM
> *To:* WCAG <w3c-wai-gl@w3.org>
> *Subject:* What to work on next
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> As I know I don't think we've made a decision about what were working on
> next. It could be 2.2 or it could be silver.
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> My thinking at this point  is that it might be best to go directly to
> Silver. Here's my reasoning:
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>    - Currently in the 2.1 and 2.2 series we are basically locked into
>    backwards compatibility constraints. The trouble we had getting new
>    requirements into 2.1 will be repeated in 2.2. There are not a lot of
>    issues that we tabled for 2.2 that we can successfully address any better
>    than we could in 2.1. Perhaps we could do some more work on target size and
>    a couple of things like that but it doesn't sound like we can do much more
>    Until new assistive technologies come out or new specifications for
>    instance for COGA.
>    - Currently silver is under development and many of us could
>    contribute to that effort if we weren't working on another interim version
>    of WCAG. I think it would be better if we consolidate our efforts and work
>    on the same next big problem which is fleshing out the plausibility of
>    "measurability"  versus " testability"  and seeing if this is a viable
>    way forward for the standard .
>    - I'd be more comfortable if we were all working together on the
>    problem rather than in tandem where most of us can't give it more than a
>    passing glance to what's going on with silver because we have our heads
>    down on the current version.
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> I'm interested in other people's opinions.
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> Cheers,
> David MacDonald
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