- From: Marc Johlic <marc.johlic@gmail.com>
- Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2018 12:29:16 -0500
- To: WCAG <w3c-wai-gl@w3.org>
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+1 to Michael Gower's editorial change. The SC is much easier to read with the "unless" clause around active on focus as a bullet item. Still keeping my earlier +1 for this CFC if we can't make this editorial change. Marc Johlic On Fri, Jan 19, 2018 at 6:04 AM, David MacDonald <david100@sympatico.ca> wrote: > I support Michael editorial ... think the exception for UI components > should be a separate bullet... it's not a substantive change... simply > editorial and wouldn't need its own CFC/ > > I support the CFC regardless. > > > Cheers, > David MacDonald > > > > *Can**Adapt* *Solutions Inc.* > > Tel: 613.235.4902 <(613)%20235-4902> > > LinkedIn > <http://www.linkedin.com/in/davidmacdonald100> > > twitter.com/davidmacd > > GitHub <https://github.com/DavidMacDonald> > > www.Can-Adapt.com <http://www.can-adapt.com/> > > > > * Adapting the web to all users* > * Including those with disabilities* > > If you are not the intended recipient, please review our privacy policy > <http://www.davidmacd.com/disclaimer.html> > > On Thu, Jan 18, 2018 at 10:04 PM, Michael Gower <michael.gower@ca.ibm.com> > wrote: > >> I already +1'ed this. >> This is an editorial suggestion. I think it would be cleaner to pull out >> the "unless..." phrase in the preamble and make that wording into a new >> bullet. I do not believe it changes the meaning at all. >> If a *keyboard shortcut* >> <http://rawgit.com/w3c/wcag21/character_changes/guidelines/index.html#dfn-keyboard-shortcuts> >> is implemented in content using only letter (including upper- and >> lower-case letters), punctuation, number, or symbol characters, then at >> least one of the following is true: >> >> Turn off >> >> A *mechanism* >> <http://rawgit.com/w3c/wcag21/character_changes/guidelines/index.html#dfn-mechanism>is >> available to turn the shortcut off; >> >> Remap >> >> A mechanism is available to remap the shortcut to use one or more >> non-printable keyboard characters (e.g. Ctrl, Alt, etc). >> >> Active only on focus >> The keyboard shortcut for a *user interface component* >> <http://rawgit.com/w3c/wcag21/character_changes/guidelines/index.html#dfn-user-interface-components> >> is only active when that component has focus >> >> Michael Gower >> IBM Accessibility >> Research >> >> 1803 Douglas Street, Victoria, BC >> <https://maps.google.com/?q=1803+Douglas+Street,+Victoria,+BC+%C2%A0V8T+5C3&entry=gmail&source=g> >> V8T 5C3 >> <https://maps.google.com/?q=1803+Douglas+Street,+Victoria,+BC+%C2%A0V8T+5C3&entry=gmail&source=g> >> gowerm@ca.ibm.com >> voice: (250) 220-1146 * cel: (250) 661-0098 * >> <https://maps.google.com/?q=1803+Douglas+Street,+Victoria,+BC+%C2%A0V8T+5C3+%3Chttps://maps.google.com/?q%3D1803%2BDouglas%2BStreet,%2BVictoria,%2BBC%2B%25C2%25A0V8T%2B5C3%26entry%3Dgmail%26source%3Dg%3E&entry=gmail&source=g>fax: >> (250) 220-8034 >> >> >> >> From: "Michael Gower" <michael.gower@ca.ibm.com> >> To: Andrew Kirkpatrick <akirkpat@adobe.com> >> Cc: WCAG <w3c-wai-gl@w3.org> >> Date: 2018-01-18 06:23 PM >> Subject: Re: CFC - Updated Response to issues 386, 659, and 660, >> 669, and 688 on Character Key Shortcuts >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> >> >> +1 >> Michael Gower >> IBM Accessibility >> Research >> >> 1803 Douglas Street, Victoria, BC >> <https://maps.google.com/?q=1803+Douglas+Street,+Victoria,+BC+%C2%A0V8T+5C3&entry=gmail&source=g> >> V8T 5C3 >> <https://maps.google.com/?q=1803+Douglas+Street,+Victoria,+BC+%C2%A0V8T+5C3&entry=gmail&source=g> >> gowerm@ca.ibm.com >> voice: (250) 220-1146 * cel: (250) 661-0098 * >> <https://maps.google.com/?q=1803+Douglas+Street,+Victoria,+BC+%C2%A0V8T+5C3+%3Chttps://maps.google.com/?q%3D1803%2BDouglas%2BStreet,%2BVictoria,%2BBC%2B%25C2%25A0V8T%2B5C3%26entry%3Dgmail%26source%3Dg%3E&entry=gmail&source=g>fax: >> (250) 220-8034 >> >> >> >> From: Andrew Kirkpatrick <akirkpat@adobe.com> >> To: WCAG <w3c-wai-gl@w3.org> >> Date: 2018-01-17 04:16 PM >> Subject: CFC - Updated Response to issues 386, 659, and 660, 669, >> and 688 on Character Key Shortcuts >> ------------------------------ >> >> Call For Consensus — ends Friday January 19th at 7pm Boston time. >> >> >> >> The Working Group has discussed responses to the following issues: >> >> 386: What do 'character key' and 'printable' mean? ( >> *https://github.com/w3c/wcag21/issues/386* >> <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__github.com_w3c_wcag21_issues_386&d=DwMGaQ&c=jf_iaSHvJObTbx-siA1ZOg&r=_9rqR3xSCWQUlv9VpOcJwkP7H0XWQXmxeMmqQl6Fikc&m=nTQi5qA7HE54a7PBFv3j6mG-n4Zn5rnw7WGoglrB2r4&s=4cG63XUkZFAQYYmmbZrBY3jfdu5hnmz1K8cBjudUVdc&e=> >> ) >> >> 659: Ambiguous definition (*https://github.com/w3c/wcag21/issues/659* >> <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__github.com_w3c_wcag21_issues_659&d=DwMGaQ&c=jf_iaSHvJObTbx-siA1ZOg&r=_9rqR3xSCWQUlv9VpOcJwkP7H0XWQXmxeMmqQl6Fikc&m=nTQi5qA7HE54a7PBFv3j6mG-n4Zn5rnw7WGoglrB2r4&s=PczkktcyDO_o9_yIFxjPs0gPSOasXI9bHgHpmihWtyA&e=> >> ) >> >> 660: Characters (*https://github.com/w3c/wcag21/issues/660* >> <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__github.com_w3c_wcag21_issues_660&d=DwMGaQ&c=jf_iaSHvJObTbx-siA1ZOg&r=_9rqR3xSCWQUlv9VpOcJwkP7H0XWQXmxeMmqQl6Fikc&m=nTQi5qA7HE54a7PBFv3j6mG-n4Zn5rnw7WGoglrB2r4&s=nmO_0gErL8d8a60ahwi88-h_2flOxNym3PFfur-z6h4&e=> >> ) >> >> 669: SC 2.4.11 Character Key Shortcuts - Proposal for change of wording ( >> *https://github.com/w3c/wcag21/issues/669* >> <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__github.com_w3c_wcag21_issues_669&d=DwMGaQ&c=jf_iaSHvJObTbx-siA1ZOg&r=_9rqR3xSCWQUlv9VpOcJwkP7H0XWQXmxeMmqQl6Fikc&m=nTQi5qA7HE54a7PBFv3j6mG-n4Zn5rnw7WGoglrB2r4&s=YFbN8U8mzEhgWS1FmwYw2DdxWjVdg5hcLApp5FFZ0Uo&e=> >> ) >> >> 688: Comment on 2.4.11 (*https://github.com/w3c/wcag21/issues/688* >> <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__github.com_w3c_wcag21_issues_688&d=DwMGaQ&c=jf_iaSHvJObTbx-siA1ZOg&r=_9rqR3xSCWQUlv9VpOcJwkP7H0XWQXmxeMmqQl6Fikc&m=nTQi5qA7HE54a7PBFv3j6mG-n4Zn5rnw7WGoglrB2r4&s=vMvTemd2zAjtsQM1fmxxxOUwsi2jQXXEdm1FIqGRwEQ&e=> >> ) >> >> >> >> Response to Issue 386: >> *https://www.w3.org/WAI/GL/wiki/Draft_Responses_to_Dec_WD_Issues#386* >> <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.w3.org_WAI_GL_wiki_Draft-5FResponses-5Fto-5FDec-5FWD-5FIssues-23386&d=DwMGaQ&c=jf_iaSHvJObTbx-siA1ZOg&r=_9rqR3xSCWQUlv9VpOcJwkP7H0XWQXmxeMmqQl6Fikc&m=nTQi5qA7HE54a7PBFv3j6mG-n4Zn5rnw7WGoglrB2r4&s=MrH3mrUO_Mw8fvfCeDvXGMw_6ZMkBLOJ1Nj0sQQof5k&e=> >> >> Response to Issue 659: >> *https://www.w3.org/WAI/GL/wiki/Draft_Responses_to_Dec_WD_Issues#659* >> <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.w3.org_WAI_GL_wiki_Draft-5FResponses-5Fto-5FDec-5FWD-5FIssues-23659&d=DwMGaQ&c=jf_iaSHvJObTbx-siA1ZOg&r=_9rqR3xSCWQUlv9VpOcJwkP7H0XWQXmxeMmqQl6Fikc&m=nTQi5qA7HE54a7PBFv3j6mG-n4Zn5rnw7WGoglrB2r4&s=UVHSTgmV7BMSteJjpchUvL4SPQ7KZtXUE4sMaUh10zI&e=> >> >> Response to Issue 660: >> *https://www.w3.org/WAI/GL/wiki/Draft_Responses_to_Dec_WD_Issues#660* >> <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.w3.org_WAI_GL_wiki_Draft-5FResponses-5Fto-5FDec-5FWD-5FIssues-23660&d=DwMGaQ&c=jf_iaSHvJObTbx-siA1ZOg&r=_9rqR3xSCWQUlv9VpOcJwkP7H0XWQXmxeMmqQl6Fikc&m=nTQi5qA7HE54a7PBFv3j6mG-n4Zn5rnw7WGoglrB2r4&s=uCtK6IxTMNtxzNpHzfGt74wrlnij9_NmVS2LbYoY7D4&e=> >> >> Response to Issue 669: >> *https://www.w3.org/WAI/GL/wiki/Draft_Responses_to_Dec_WD_Issues#669* >> <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.w3.org_WAI_GL_wiki_Draft-5FResponses-5Fto-5FDec-5FWD-5FIssues-23669&d=DwMGaQ&c=jf_iaSHvJObTbx-siA1ZOg&r=_9rqR3xSCWQUlv9VpOcJwkP7H0XWQXmxeMmqQl6Fikc&m=nTQi5qA7HE54a7PBFv3j6mG-n4Zn5rnw7WGoglrB2r4&s=2vVhcWBSLTTyhkjjbwjbCtlq0icIn6wK_jk8HZTZomU&e=> >> >> Response to Issue 688: >> *https://www.w3.org/WAI/GL/wiki/Draft_Responses_to_Dec_WD_Issues#688* >> <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.w3.org_WAI_GL_wiki_Draft-5FResponses-5Fto-5FDec-5FWD-5FIssues-23688&d=DwMGaQ&c=jf_iaSHvJObTbx-siA1ZOg&r=_9rqR3xSCWQUlv9VpOcJwkP7H0XWQXmxeMmqQl6Fikc&m=nTQi5qA7HE54a7PBFv3j6mG-n4Zn5rnw7WGoglrB2r4&s=9DSwvToO_oIgqz6skW8HViNrop3UKDfjOBU7UrET730&e=> >> >> >> >> The changes to the SC are implemented in this pull request: >> *https://github.com/w3c/wcag21/pull/732* >> <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__github.com_w3c_wcag21_pull_732&d=DwMGaQ&c=jf_iaSHvJObTbx-siA1ZOg&r=_9rqR3xSCWQUlv9VpOcJwkP7H0XWQXmxeMmqQl6Fikc&m=nTQi5qA7HE54a7PBFv3j6mG-n4Zn5rnw7WGoglrB2r4&s=OqpzLpLNzS6txO3JqhUSXiAmMQloFhPvM_kD-FO-t78&e=> >> >> The changed SC can be viewed here: >> *http://rawgit.com/w3c/wcag21/character_changes/guidelines/index.html#character-key-shortcuts* >> <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__rawgit.com_w3c_wcag21_character-5Fchanges_guidelines_index.html-23character-2Dkey-2Dshortcuts&d=DwMGaQ&c=jf_iaSHvJObTbx-siA1ZOg&r=_9rqR3xSCWQUlv9VpOcJwkP7H0XWQXmxeMmqQl6Fikc&m=nTQi5qA7HE54a7PBFv3j6mG-n4Zn5rnw7WGoglrB2r4&s=CdaLc6Oo3FllFZ7K3ybTeF6Bk_PAlWnLqQgc7qkTIcs&e=> >> >> >> >> Since the original CFC, this has been updated to remove the mention of >> the shift key, and to remove the mention of space and enter (see specific >> commit here: >> *https://github.com/w3c/wcag21/pull/732/commits/4f7d83ea030329529ede8f0f577abf51a18745a7* >> <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__github.com_w3c_wcag21_pull_732_commits_4f7d83ea030329529ede8f0f577abf51a18745a7&d=DwMGaQ&c=jf_iaSHvJObTbx-siA1ZOg&r=_9rqR3xSCWQUlv9VpOcJwkP7H0XWQXmxeMmqQl6Fikc&m=nTQi5qA7HE54a7PBFv3j6mG-n4Zn5rnw7WGoglrB2r4&s=OkWiLk5635jtBgUY-Un_LVJyXhHONFMRvgL5SNYXy_M&e=> >> ) >> >> >> >> If you have concerns about this proposed consensus position that have not >> been discussed already and feel that those concerns result in you “not >> being able to live with” this decision, please let the group know before >> the CfC deadline. >> >> >> >> Thanks, >> >> AWK >> >> >> >> Andrew Kirkpatrick >> >> Group Product Manager, Accessibility >> >> Adobe >> >> >> >> *akirkpat@adobe.com* <akirkpat@adobe.com> >> >> *http://twitter.com/awkawk* >> <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com_-3Furl-3Dhttp-253A-252F-252Ftwitter.com-252Fawkawk-26data-3D02-257C01-257C-257C54093524ef264326424008d51cd66c05-257Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178decee1-257C0-257C0-257C636446629619786436-26sdata-3Dc5UP0xiniJIppvd6Esu1XA-252FbX1ykpABkhgCCmBp-252Fht8-253D-26reserved-3D0&d=DwMGaQ&c=jf_iaSHvJObTbx-siA1ZOg&r=_9rqR3xSCWQUlv9VpOcJwkP7H0XWQXmxeMmqQl6Fikc&m=wzpX2bfaVfQbEhnBz7Qnyd6ZKRSuBmCfz6rR40v0jew&s=rIU18GZsR9IT6XVQuVmITXIbo2RGOHDXf0CYm2ZPDO8&e=> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >
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