Re: side conversation on 386, 659, and 660, 669, and 688 on Character Key Shortcuts from David MacDonald on 2018-01-17 (w3c-wai-gl@w3.org from January to March 2018)

From: David MacDonald <david100@sympatico.ca>
Date: Wed, 17 Jan 2018 16:40:37 -0500
To: Michael Gower <michael.gower@ca.ibm.com>
Cc: Andrew Kirkpatrick <akirkpat@adobe.com>, James Nurthen <james.nurthen@oracle.com>, WCAG <w3c-wai-gl@w3.org>
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I'm fine either way, I don't want to lose the SC over it.

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On Wed, Jan 17, 2018 at 4:19 PM, Michael Gower <michael.gower@ca.ibm.com>
wrote:

> I prefer my suggestions to resolve, but I can live with your response
> rather than risk harpooning the SC.
> +1
> Michael Gower
> IBM Accessibility
> Research
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>
> From:        Andrew Kirkpatrick <akirkpat@adobe.com>
> To:        Michael Gower <michael.gower@ca.ibm.com>
> Cc:        James Nurthen <james.nurthen@oracle.com>, WCAG <
> w3c-wai-gl@w3.org>
> Date:        2018-01-17 12:46 PM
> Subject:        Re: side conversation on 386, 659, and 660, 669, and 688
> on Character     Key Shortcuts
> ------------------------------
>
>
> The issue from multiple commenters was the definition (which was for
> “character key”).
>
>
>
> The definition was: “single printable Unicode code point, any keyboard
> character that is printable, i.e. letters of the alphabet including
> capitals, punctuation, numbers, and symbols. Note that the Space and Enter
> keys, which return empty spaces rather than characters, are not character
> keys”.
>
>
>
> Commenters said that we are trying to redefine a commonly used term in
> order to exclude printable keys like space.  So, I tried to play with the
> definition and the SC just kept getting longer and longer, until  I removed
> the definition and just used what the SC was requiring before:
>
>
>
> In the second half, we were using “non-character key” and interpreting
> that as the opposite of character key, and that was expanded out also.
> Since space and enter were excluded from being character keys, they are
> “non-character keys”.
>
>
>
> It is true that a keyboard shortcut “b” could be replaced by “enter” in
> the final exception, but I don’t think that is too likely to happen. The
> only people who are going to use enter (and probably space) are going to be
> very aware of what they are doing, and like James indicates are going to
> need to be in the clear to do so.
>
>
>
> The current last exception reads:
>
> A mechanism is available to remap the shortcut to use one or more
> non-printable keyboard characters (e.g. Ctrl, Alt, Shift, etc.) or the
> Space or Enter keys.
>
>
>
> I’m happy to remove “shift” and maybe can clarify the final exception.
>
>
>
> A mechanism is available to remap the shortcut to use one or more* of
> either *non-printable keyboard characters (e.g. Ctrl, Alt, etc.) or the
> Space or Enter keys.
>
>
>
> Does any of this help?
>
>
>
> Thanks,
>
> AWK
>
>
>
> Andrew Kirkpatrick
>
> Group Product Manager, Accessibility
>
> Adobe
>
>
>
> akirkpat@adobe.com
>
> http://twitter.com/awkawk
>
>
>
> *From: *Michael Gower <michael.gower@ca.ibm.com>
> *Date: *Wednesday, January 17, 2018 at 15:07
> *To: *Andrew Kirkpatrick <akirkpat@adobe.com>
> *Cc: *James Nurthen <james.nurthen@oracle.com>, WCAG <w3c-wai-gl@w3.org>
> *Subject: *Re: side conversation on 386, 659, and 660, 669, and 688 on
> Character Key Shortcuts
>
>
>
> Shift creates confusion. One can make a pretty good argument that an
> author who is failing this with "b" can now do Shift+b and pass. But
> Shift+b is equivalent to B, which we also don't want to allow as a
> single-character shortcut. It just becomes a bit wierder with the new
> language about "upper- and lower-case letters". I consider that a side
> issue though, so let me focus on the larger consideration.
>
> Previously, this was the basic logic flow of this SC:
>
> 1.        using one or more character keys alone as a shortcut?
> 1.        if yes, does it only work when component for which it is
> intended has focus?
> 1.        If yes, fine.
> 2.        If no, also use a modifier, or turn it off.
> 2.        If no, fine.
>
>
> Now we have:
>
> 1.        Using *letter, punctuation, number or symbol characters*alone
> as a shortcut?
> 1.        if yes, does it only work when component for which it is
> intended has focus?
> 1.        If yes, fine.
> 2.        If no, use a modifier, or turn it off, *or make the shortcut be
> Enter or Spacebar*.
> 2.        If no, fine.
>
>
>
> The other change is that "printable character" was previously defined:
> > single printable Unicode code point, any keyboard character that is
> printable, i.e. letters of the alphabet including capitals, punctuation,
> numbers, and symbols
> > Note that the Space and Enter keys, which return empty spaces rather
> than characters, are not character keys.
>
> So  Space and Enter keys were previously explicitly *excluded * from
> considerationin the definition*. *That was the only mention of them. If
> you used Spacebar or Enter as a shortcut, the SC didn't apply.
> The same exclusion happens now, since they are do not meet any of the
> criteria in the list, but it isn't explicit. But now they are *also*
> being called out as a new sanctioned way to overcome the problem. So now
> the direction is: "in any cirucumstance, make the shortcut into Enter or
> Spacebar and you pass!"
>
> I think that is problematic. If you want to have an explicit mention of
> Spacebar and Enter, they should be at the end in a note as an exclusion,
> not dumped into the second bullet. For instance, it could read "Note that
> Space and Enter keys are not considered letter, punctuation, number or
> symbol characters."
>
> Michael Gower
> IBM Accessibility
> Research
>
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>
>
> From:        Andrew Kirkpatrick <akirkpat@adobe.com>
> To:        Michael Gower <michael.gower@ca.ibm.com>
> Cc:        James Nurthen <james.nurthen@oracle.com>, WCAG <
> w3c-wai-gl@w3.org>
> Date:        2018-01-17 11:13 AM
> Subject:        Re: side conversation on 386, 659, and 660, 669, and 688
> on Character    Key Shortcuts
> ------------------------------
>
>
>
> Why is adding “shift” bad? With the current language shift would certainly
> count as a non-character key, so it would be ok for a mechanism to allow a
> shortcut “b” to become “shift+b” – this would solve the core issue that the
> single key shortcut created.  That said, I don’t mind removing shift from
> being explicitly mentioned.
>
>
>
> James has indicated a concern about space that would necessitate leaving
> it (and I should say that we have a product that currently uses space in a
> combination shortcut) and enter is a concern as a developer who needs to
> implement default form submission in a custom form would likely need to use
> it.
>
>
>
> Can you explain what is different in the SC now as opposed to when we
> referenced “character key” in the glossary and defined it as any printable
> key, not counting space or enter?
>
>
>
> Thanks,
>
> AWK
>
>
>
> Andrew Kirkpatrick
>
> Group Product Manager, Accessibility
>
> Adobe
>
>
>
> akirkpat@adobe.com
>
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>
>
> *From: *Michael Gower <michael.gower@ca.ibm.com>
> *Date: *Wednesday, January 17, 2018 at 13:59
> *To: *Andrew Kirkpatrick <akirkpat@adobe.com>
> *Cc: *James Nurthen <james.nurthen@oracle.com>, WCAG <w3c-wai-gl@w3.org>
> *Subject: *Re: side conversation on 386, 659, and 660, 669, and 688 on
> Character Key Shortcuts
>
>
>
> I believe Kathy was the primary initiator of this SC, so I would encourage
> her to be consulted. BTW, I also find the inclusion of "Shift" in the
> wording now problematic, since arguably, a user could meet it with
> SHIFT+letter. So I have removed it and the etc, and would recommend
> including clarification about modifiers in the understanding document.
>
> To restate, I am requesting a change for the second Remap bullet, to
> become:
>
> "A mechanism is available to remap the shortcut to include one or more
> non-printable keyboard characters (e.g., Ctrl, Alt)"
>
> The current proposal reads like this:
>
>
> If a *keyboard shortcut*
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> implemented in content using only letter (including upper- and lower-case
> letters), punctuation, number, or symbol characters, then at least one of
> the following is true unless the keyboard shortcut for a *user interface
> component*
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> only active when that component has focus:
>
> Turn off
>
> A *mechanism*
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> available to turn the shortcut off;
>
> Remap
>
> A mechanism is available to remap the shortcut to use one or more
> non-printable keyboard characters (e.g. Ctrl, Alt, Shift, etc.) or the
> Space or Enter keys.
>
>
>
> Michael Gower
> IBM Accessibility
> Research
>
> 1803 Douglas Street, Victoria, BC
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>
>
> From:        Andrew Kirkpatrick <akirkpat@adobe.com>
> To:        Michael Gower <michael.gower@ca.ibm.com>
> Cc:        James Nurthen <james.nurthen@oracle.com>, WCAG <
> w3c-wai-gl@w3.org>
> Date:        2018-01-17 10:20 AM
> Subject:        side conversation on 386, 659, and 660, 669, and 688 on
> Character   Key Shortcuts
> ------------------------------
>
>
>
> Mike,
>
> Who needs to discuss it? We have about 4 hours.
>
>
>
> James, any thoughts?
>
>
>
> Thanks,
>
> AWK
>
>
>
> Andrew Kirkpatrick
>
> Group Product Manager, Accessibility
>
> Adobe
>
>
>
> akirkpat@adobe.com
>
> *http://twitter.com/awkawk*
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>
>
>
> *From: *Michael Gower <michael.gower@ca.ibm.com>
> *Date: *Wednesday, January 17, 2018 at 13:17
> *To: *Andrew Kirkpatrick <akirkpat@adobe.com>
> *Cc: *James Nurthen <james.nurthen@oracle.com>, WCAG <w3c-wai-gl@w3.org>
> *Subject: *Re: CFC - Response to issues 386, 659, and 660, 669, and 688
> on Character Key Shortcuts
>
>
>
> -1
> Andrew, I would really like to get some more folks looking at this,
> because I do not read it that way. It seems far from clear, and could lead
> to some unfortunate implementations.
>
> Michael Gower
> IBM Accessibility
> Research
>
> 1803 Douglas Street, Victoria, BC
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>
>
> From:        Andrew Kirkpatrick <akirkpat@adobe.com>
> To:        Michael Gower <michael.gower@ca.ibm.com>, James Nurthen <
> james.nurthen@oracle.com>
> Cc:        WCAG <w3c-wai-gl@w3.org>
> Date:        2018-01-15 01:11 PM
> Subject:        Re: CFC - Response to issues 386, 659, and 660, 669, and
> 688 on Character  Key Shortcuts
> ------------------------------
>
>
>
> Mike,
>
> I don’t think that this is any different now.
>
>
>
> Originally, the SC said:
>
> If keyboard uses only character keys (doesn’t include space and enter)
> then a mechanism  to turn off the shortcut must exist or they need to be
> able to remap the shortcut to use at least one “non-character key” (keys
> that don’t count as character keys, including space and enter).
>
>
>
> Now it says the same thing, I believe.
>
>
>
> Authors might include space and enter – e.g. a mail application might use
> alt+enter to send a message, or space in a similar way. They are unlikely
> to use space or enter entirely independently.
>
>
>
> Enter could be used to trigger a default button in a custom form, so that
> one should probably stay. Space was mentioned by James Nurthen, but I’m not
> sure what the use case is – it seems to be more applicable when a control
> is focused.
>
>
>
> Thanks,
>
> AWK
>
>
>
> Andrew Kirkpatrick
>
> Group Product Manager, Accessibility
>
> Adobe
>
>
>
> akirkpat@adobe.com
>
> *http://twitter.com/awkawk*
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>
>
>
> *From: *Michael Gower <michael.gower@ca.ibm.com>
> *Date: *Monday, January 15, 2018 at 14:56
> *To: *Andrew Kirkpatrick <akirkpat@adobe.com>
> *Cc: *WCAG <w3c-wai-gl@w3.org>
> *Subject: *Re: CFC - Response to issues 386, 659, and 660, 669, and 688
> on Character Key Shortcuts
>
>
>
> I'm concerned with the rewording of Remap, both the addition of "or the
> Space or Enter keys" and the wording "to use".
> *https://github.com/w3c/wcag21/pull/732/files*
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> It is now proposed to read:
>
> <dd>A mechanism is available to remap the shortcut to use one or more
> non-printable keyboard characters (e.g. Ctrl, Alt, Shift, etc.) or the
> Space or Enter keys.</dd>
>
> In the original wording, Space and Enter were excepted from counting as
> character keys. That has now been altered to state that authors can use
> Space and Enter to replace author-created shortcuts. However, Space and
> Enter tend to be assigned by the user agent for specific activations. We
> should not be encouraging their use for remapping purposes, especially
> without the use of a modifier key. This will potentially lead to exactly
> the same issues with Speech operation that the SC was attempting to
> overcome.
>
> The concerns that were raised by the definition of character key seem to
> have been addressed by replacing 'character keys' with the phrase "using
> only letter (including upper- and lower-case letters), punctuation, number,
> or symbol characters ", which does not include Space or Enter. So it does
> not seem neccesary to later specify them in the remap definition. I would
> advocate that "or the Space or Enter keys" be removed.
>
> As well, the rewording infers that *just*a modifier key can now be used.
> I think this can be overcome by changing "use" to "include". The resulting
> Remap's definition would read:
>
> A mechanism is available to remap the shortcut to include use one or more
> non-printable keyboard characters (e.g. Ctrl, Alt, Shift, etc.).
>
>
> Michael Gower
> IBM Accessibility
> Research
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>
> From:        Andrew Kirkpatrick <akirkpat@adobe.com>
> To:        WCAG <w3c-wai-gl@w3.org>
> Date:        2018-01-14 11:30 PM
> Subject:        CFC - Response to issues 386, 659, and 660, 669, and 688
> on Character  Key Shortcuts
> ------------------------------
>
>
>
> Call For Consensus — ends Wednesday January 17th at 2:30am Boston time.
>
>
>
> The Working Group has discussed responses to the following issues:
>
> 386: What do 'character key' and 'printable' mean? (
> *https://github.com/w3c/wcag21/issues/386*
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> )
>
> 659: Ambiguous definition (*https://github.com/w3c/wcag21/issues/659*
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> )
>
> 660: Characters (*https://github.com/w3c/wcag21/issues/660*
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> )
>
> 669: SC 2.4.11 Character Key Shortcuts - Proposal for change of wording (
> *https://github.com/w3c/wcag21/issues/669*
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> )
>
> 688: Comment on 2.4.11 (*https://github.com/w3c/wcag21/issues/688*
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> )
>
>
>
> Response to Issue 386:
> *https://www.w3.org/WAI/GL/wiki/Draft_Responses_to_Dec_WD_Issues#386*
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>
> Response to Issue 659:
> *https://www.w3.org/WAI/GL/wiki/Draft_Responses_to_Dec_WD_Issues#659*
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>
> Response to Issue 660:
> *https://www.w3.org/WAI/GL/wiki/Draft_Responses_to_Dec_WD_Issues#660*
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>
> Response to Issue 669:
> *https://www.w3.org/WAI/GL/wiki/Draft_Responses_to_Dec_WD_Issues#669*
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>
> Response to Issue 688:
> *https://www.w3.org/WAI/GL/wiki/Draft_Responses_to_Dec_WD_Issues#688*
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>
>
> The changes to the SC are implemented in this pull request:
> *https://github.com/w3c/wcag21/pull/732*
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>
> The changed SC can be viewed here:
> *http://rawgit.com/w3c/wcag21/character_changes/guidelines/index.html#character-key-shortcuts*
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