Re: Target size proposal

I could live with 48px one dimension and default on the other

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On Wed, Jan 17, 2018 at 2:24 PM, Andrew Kirkpatrick <akirkpat@adobe.com>
wrote:

> I notice on the Google material guidelines page that the text links are
> 15px tall (I think that on a 96dpi monitor this means 25 CSS px) and I also
> see this:
>
> Density
> When mouse and keyboard are the primary input methods, button measurements
> can be slightly reduced to accommodate dense UIs. (32dpi in height)
>
> Also, in the size and padding section, the material guidelines indicate
> that the button can be 36dp inside the 48dp target, so leaving 6dp on each
> side.
>
> Thanks,
> AWK
>
> Andrew Kirkpatrick
> Group Product Manager, Accessibility
> Adobe
>
> akirkpat@adobe.com
> http://twitter.com/awkawk
>
> On 1/17/18, 13:36, "Abma, J.D. (Jake)" <Jake.Abma@ing.nl> wrote:
>
>
>     Ha, this is even true for almost all of Google's showpieces like
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> 2FsVAeaQtEUJQqujz51r8F8AE7Glk7qk06A89Q%3D&reserved=0  to name a few where
> there are more targets NOT having the desired size than the ones that do.
>
>
>     -----Original Message-----
>     From: Patrick H. Lauke [mailto:redux@splintered.co.uk]
>     Sent: woensdag 17 januari 2018 19:23
>     To: w3c-wai-gl@w3.org
>     Subject: Re: Target size proposal
>
>     On 17/01/2018 17:48, Abma, J.D. (Jake) wrote:
>     > After some research it's clear that Microsoft also has 48X48 now (7/9
>     > mm) and the 26/34 is pretty old for MS phones/apps in from 2010...
>     >
>     > But they also changed a lot and so pick a number (23, 26, 34, 40, 48
>     > and maybe more) and you're save... :-)
>     >
>     > So what research at which time by whom is the question as but for
> sure
>     > the 26/34 is not what they use now (or maybe somewhere...)
>
>     Also worth pointing out (as already pointed out on various occasions
> in the past) that whether you look at Microsoft, Google, or Apple, guidance
> on target sizes is advisory - usually couched in terms like "in general",
> "should", "avoid", and so on - and that these companies themselves
> sometimes break their own guidance when deemed appropriate (a classic
> example with Apple, for instance, would be the minuscule "Back"
>     control in the phone's top bar when you, say, follow a link in an
> email and it opens Safari). Meaning these are more subtle than hard
> pass/fail values set in stone, and more of good practice / UX guidance.
>
>     P
>     --
>     Patrick H. Lauke
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