- From: David MacDonald <david@can-adapt.com>
- Date: Wed, 17 Jan 2018 11:04:26 -0500
- To: Andrew Kirkpatrick <akirkpat@adobe.com>
- Cc: Alastair Campbell <acampbell@nomensa.com>, WCAG <w3c-wai-gl@w3.org>
- Message-ID: <CAAdDpDZWHQmmQsxSDHyaooCQriBHLV7VpAdf1y7rQxeU3=7h=Q@mail.gmail.com>
OK I'll pop back in the specifics and see if the new layout works Cheers, David MacDonald *Can**Adapt* *Solutions Inc.* Mobile: 613.806.9005 LinkedIn <http://www.linkedin.com/in/davidmacdonald100> twitter.com/davidmacd GitHub <https://github.com/DavidMacDonald> www.Can-Adapt.com <http://www.can-adapt.com/> * Adapting the web to all users* * Including those with disabilities* If you are not the intended recipient, please review our privacy policy <http://www.davidmacd.com/disclaimer.html> On Wed, Jan 17, 2018 at 10:38 AM, Andrew Kirkpatrick <akirkpat@adobe.com> wrote: > This is a massive change and I don’t think that it will fly. My concerns: > > > > 1. The SC is scope to input controls, not controls writ large. > 2. The SC discussion has been about scoping this to information about > the user. James raised the very valid point for situations like in an HR > tool where there are many first name/last name/etc fields. > > > > In a WCAG 2.2 we can expand the list of input controls without a problem > with backward compatibility, and if we can expand beyond input controls > then we can add another SC that does that. > > > > I don’t think that the SC is strengthened by making it more general, it > will make it more confusing and less likely to pass into CR. > > > > Thanks, > > AWK > > > > Andrew Kirkpatrick > > Group Product Manager, Accessibility > > Adobe > > > > akirkpat@adobe.com > > http://twitter.com/awkawk > > > > *From: *David MacDonald <david@can-adapt.com> > *Date: *Wednesday, January 17, 2018 at 08:46 > *To: *Alastair Campbell <acampbell@nomensa.com> > *Cc: *WCAG <w3c-wai-gl@w3.org> > *Subject: *Re: Created branch with proposed wording for 1.3.4 > *Resent-From: *WCAG <w3c-wai-gl@w3.org> > *Resent-Date: *Wednesday, January 17, 2018 at 08:45 > > > > PS I'm training all day today... so will just check in on breaks.... can > we rally around this and make any tweaks as necessary today? > > > > ... especially check the definition in the Branch > > which pulls in HTML 5.2 > > > > http://rawgit.com/w3c/wcag21/1.3.4_autofill_david/ > guidelines/#identify-common-purpose > <https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Frawgit.com%2Fw3c%2Fwcag21%2F1.3.4_autofill_david%2Fguidelines%2F%23identify-common-purpose&data=02%7C01%7Cakirkpat%40adobe.com%7Ce1e8643fbc1641ad2a4808d55db0ae4b%7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178decee1%7C0%7C0%7C636517935779603396&sdata=%2FeP%2BgKKpZO60LXg1pVivwDhRXYl3Rxl7dtKITZL6WIc%3D&reserved=0> > > > > Feel free to edit the Branch as necessary, if I'm not answering quickly... > > > Cheers, > David MacDonald > > > > *Can**Adapt* *Solutions Inc.* > > Mobile: 613.806.9005 <(613)%20806-9005> > > LinkedIn > > 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<https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.can-adapt.com%2F&data=02%7C01%7Cakirkpat%40adobe.com%7Ce1e8643fbc1641ad2a4808d55db0ae4b%7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178decee1%7C0%7C0%7C636517935779603396&sdata=wJtz9CbC%2FJJ4G1Fc5fysThR5cq4vaQMcDN2PCFA4J2s%3D&reserved=0> > > > > * Adapting the web to all users* > > * Including those with disabilities* > > > > If you are not the intended recipient, please review our privacy policy > <https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.davidmacd.com%2Fdisclaimer.html&data=02%7C01%7Cakirkpat%40adobe.com%7Ce1e8643fbc1641ad2a4808d55db0ae4b%7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178decee1%7C0%7C0%7C636517935779603396&sdata=uCF%2Ffs6hM7pWOgDWLEBch7yRTWcnxJ4cqNwbTjBLldE%3D&reserved=0> > > > > On Wed, Jan 17, 2018 at 8:42 AM, David MacDonald <david@can-adapt.com> > wrote: > > sure... fixed in Branch > > > > http://rawgit.com/w3c/wcag21/1.3.4_autofill_david/ > guidelines/#identify-common-purpose > <https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Frawgit.com%2Fw3c%2Fwcag21%2F1.3.4_autofill_david%2Fguidelines%2F%23identify-common-purpose&data=02%7C01%7Cakirkpat%40adobe.com%7Ce1e8643fbc1641ad2a4808d55db0ae4b%7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178decee1%7C0%7C0%7C636517935779603396&sdata=%2FeP%2BgKKpZO60LXg1pVivwDhRXYl3Rxl7dtKITZL6WIc%3D&reserved=0> > > > > > Cheers, > David MacDonald > > > > *Can**Adapt* *Solutions Inc.* > > Mobile: 613.806.9005 <(613)%20806-9005> > > LinkedIn > > <https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.linkedin.com%2Fin%2Fdavidmacdonald100&data=02%7C01%7Cakirkpat%40adobe.com%7Ce1e8643fbc1641ad2a4808d55db0ae4b%7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178decee1%7C0%7C0%7C636517935779603396&sdata=Z9J%2FVOYbQ%2Fz2%2FXgk3Sr8Pc9bIh8s8EhG%2FTdKr7TKdbs%3D&reserved=0> > > twitter.com/davidmacd > <https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Ftwitter.com%2Fdavidmacd&data=02%7C01%7Cakirkpat%40adobe.com%7Ce1e8643fbc1641ad2a4808d55db0ae4b%7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178decee1%7C0%7C0%7C636517935779603396&sdata=fW3%2FiUDppLNODRa%2F5ee9u8yvh8kG%2F1ObzWAC%2FYvkSRU%3D&reserved=0> > > GitHub > <https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fgithub.com%2FDavidMacDonald&data=02%7C01%7Cakirkpat%40adobe.com%7Ce1e8643fbc1641ad2a4808d55db0ae4b%7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178decee1%7C0%7C0%7C636517935779603396&sdata=izkTuFVJUvHBLkkhfO1kc%2FgTK3bYH2sgNX9pho9jp%2Fk%3D&reserved=0> > > www.Can-Adapt.com > <https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.can-adapt.com%2F&data=02%7C01%7Cakirkpat%40adobe.com%7Ce1e8643fbc1641ad2a4808d55db0ae4b%7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178decee1%7C0%7C0%7C636517935779603396&sdata=wJtz9CbC%2FJJ4G1Fc5fysThR5cq4vaQMcDN2PCFA4J2s%3D&reserved=0> > > > > * Adapting the web to all users* > > * Including those with disabilities* > > > > If you are not the intended recipient, please review our privacy policy > <https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.davidmacd.com%2Fdisclaimer.html&data=02%7C01%7Cakirkpat%40adobe.com%7Ce1e8643fbc1641ad2a4808d55db0ae4b%7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178decee1%7C0%7C0%7C636517935779603396&sdata=uCF%2Ffs6hM7pWOgDWLEBch7yRTWcnxJ4cqNwbTjBLldE%3D&reserved=0> > > > > On Wed, Jan 17, 2018 at 8:35 AM, Alastair Campbell <acampbell@nomensa.com> > wrote: > > Looking good, the ‘true’ aspect doesn’t seem very WCAG though? > > > > The purpose of common interface components can be programmatically > determined *when*: > > - The content is implemented using technologies that support > identifying the expected purpose for interface components*, and* > > - The Interface component has a purpose that maps to the list > of [internal link] common interface components > > > > … > > > > -Alastair > > > > > > *From: *David MacDonald <david@can-adapt.com> > *Date: *Wednesday, 17 January 2018 at 13:31 > *To: *WCAG <w3c-wai-gl@w3.org>, WCAG Editors <team-wcag-editors@w3.org>, > Alastair Campbell <acampbell@nomensa.com>, "Abma, J.D. (Jake)" < > Jake.Abma@ing.nl>, Detlev Fischer <detlev.fischer@testkreis.de>, Andrew > Kirkpatrick <akirkpat@adobe.com> > *Subject: *Created branch with proposed wording for 1.3.4 > > > > The purpose of common interface components can be programmatically > determined if the following are true: > > - > > The content is implemented using technologies that support identifying > the expected purpose for interface components > > - > > The Interface component has a purpose that maps to the list of > > [internal link] > > common interface components > > > > >
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