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Re: Created branch with proposed wording for 1.3.4

From: David MacDonald <david@can-adapt.com>
Date: Wed, 17 Jan 2018 11:04:26 -0500
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To: Andrew Kirkpatrick <akirkpat@adobe.com>
Cc: Alastair Campbell <acampbell@nomensa.com>, WCAG <w3c-wai-gl@w3.org>
OK I'll pop back in the specifics and see if the new layout works

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On Wed, Jan 17, 2018 at 10:38 AM, Andrew Kirkpatrick <akirkpat@adobe.com>
wrote:

> This is a massive change and I don’t think that it will fly. My concerns:
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>    1. The SC is scope to input controls, not controls writ large.
>    2. The SC discussion has been about scoping this to information about
>    the user. James raised the very valid point for situations like in an HR
>    tool where there are many first name/last name/etc fields.
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>
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> In a WCAG 2.2 we can expand the list of input controls without a problem
> with backward compatibility, and if we can expand beyond input controls
> then we can add another SC that does that.
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> I don’t think that the SC is strengthened by making it more general, it
> will make it more confusing and less likely to pass into CR.
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> Thanks,
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> AWK
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> Andrew Kirkpatrick
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> Group Product Manager, Accessibility
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> Adobe
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> *From: *David MacDonald <david@can-adapt.com>
> *Date: *Wednesday, January 17, 2018 at 08:46
> *To: *Alastair Campbell <acampbell@nomensa.com>
> *Cc: *WCAG <w3c-wai-gl@w3.org>
> *Subject: *Re: Created branch with proposed wording for 1.3.4
> *Resent-From: *WCAG <w3c-wai-gl@w3.org>
> *Resent-Date: *Wednesday, January 17, 2018 at 08:45
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> PS I'm training all day today... so will just check in on breaks.... can
> we rally around this and make any tweaks as necessary today?
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> ... especially check the definition in the Branch
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>  which pulls in HTML 5.2
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> http://rawgit.com/w3c/wcag21/1.3.4_autofill_david/
> guidelines/#identify-common-purpose
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> Feel free to edit the Branch as necessary, if I'm not answering quickly...
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> Cheers,
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> On Wed, Jan 17, 2018 at 8:42 AM, David MacDonald <david@can-adapt.com>
> wrote:
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> sure... fixed in Branch
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> http://rawgit.com/w3c/wcag21/1.3.4_autofill_david/
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> On Wed, Jan 17, 2018 at 8:35 AM, Alastair Campbell <acampbell@nomensa.com>
> wrote:
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> Looking good, the ‘true’ aspect doesn’t seem very WCAG though?
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> The purpose of common interface components can be programmatically
> determined *when*:
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> ​- ​ The content is implemented using technologies that support
> identifying the expected purpose for interface components*, and*
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> ​- ​ The Interface component has a purpose that maps to the list
> of ​[internal link] ​ common interface components
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>
>
> …
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> -Alastair
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> *From: *David MacDonald <david@can-adapt.com>
> *Date: *Wednesday, 17 January 2018 at 13:31
> *To: *WCAG <w3c-wai-gl@w3.org>, WCAG Editors <team-wcag-editors@w3.org>,
> Alastair Campbell <acampbell@nomensa.com>, "Abma, J.D. (Jake)" <
> Jake.Abma@ing.nl>, Detlev Fischer <detlev.fischer@testkreis.de>, Andrew
> Kirkpatrick <akirkpat@adobe.com>
> *Subject: *Created branch with proposed wording for 1.3.4
>
>
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> The purpose of common interface components can be programmatically
> determined if the following are true:
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> ​- ​
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>  The content is implemented using technologies that support identifying
> the expected purpose for interface components
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> ​- ​
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>  The Interface component has a purpose that maps to the list of
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> ​[internal link] ​
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>  common interface components
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