RE: Identify Common Purpose - resolving issues

Ahh, just send another mail but you’ve answered it here… ☺

From: David MacDonald [mailto:david100@sympatico.ca]
Sent: woensdag 17 januari 2018 11:19
To: Abma, J.D. (Jake) <Jake.Abma@ing.nl>
Cc: Alastair Campbell <acampbell@nomensa.com>; Andrew Kirkpatrick <akirkpat@adobe.com>; WCAG <w3c-wai-gl@w3.org>
Subject: Re: Identify Common Purpose - resolving issues

​Jake to address your concern, ​l
et's go back to "interface component" as in the current wording rather than "element"

“In content implemented using technologies with support for identifying the expected meaning for interface components, for each element that has a purpose that maps to any of the [link]list of common interface components,  the meaning of the element can be programmatically determined.”




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On Wed, Jan 17, 2018 at 5:15 AM, David MacDonald <david100@sympatico.ca<mailto:david100@sympatico.ca>> wrote:
HI Jake

Your wording "common input fields" doesn't solve your most recent concern about wanting to make the normative text all for more than input fields... so the SC can expand in future versions.

My concern with "types" is that  it will be confused with input types <input type="text" ...>


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On Wed, Jan 17, 2018 at 5:01 AM, Abma, J.D. (Jake) <Jake.Abma@ing.nl<mailto:Jake.Abma@ing.nl>> wrote:
@Alastair, in opposition to previous suggested text I see you're using "elements" where I used "types".
Focusing on "elements" I'm wondering if we want the purpose of an "element" to be known or do we want to hinge more to "types" which was part of previous suggestions (more neutral also maybe?!)

For reference here the two different ones:

- “In content implemented using technologies with support for identifying the expected meaning for elements, for each element that has a purpose that maps to any of the [link]list of common input fields,  the meaning of the element can be programmatically determined.”

- “For the list of common input fields that are supported by the technology for specifying the purpose of specific types, the purpose can be programmatically determined.”




-----Original Message-----
From: Abma, J.D. (Jake)
Sent: woensdag 17 januari 2018 10:51
To: 'Alastair Campbell' <acampbell@nomensa.com<mailto:acampbell@nomensa.com>>; Andrew Kirkpatrick <akirkpat@adobe.com<mailto:akirkpat@adobe.com>>; WCAG <w3c-wai-gl@w3.org<mailto:w3c-wai-gl@w3.org>>
Subject: RE: Identify Common Purpose - resolving issues

“In content implemented using technologies with support for identifying the expected meaning for elements, for each element that has a purpose that maps to any of the [link]list of common input fields,  the meaning of the element can be programmatically determined.”

+1 looks identical to my recently suggested text :-)

-----Original Message-----
From: Alastair Campbell [mailto:acampbell@nomensa.com<mailto:acampbell@nomensa.com>]
Sent: woensdag 17 januari 2018 10:45
To: Abma, J.D. (Jake) <Jake.Abma@ing.nl<mailto:Jake.Abma@ing.nl>>; Andrew Kirkpatrick <akirkpat@adobe.com<mailto:akirkpat@adobe.com>>; WCAG <w3c-wai-gl@w3.org<mailto:w3c-wai-gl@w3.org>>
Subject: Re: Identify Common Purpose - resolving issues

Jake wrote:
> I see a limitation in “for each user-specific input field” if we want to expand this SC to also apply to NON user-specific input fields (or even links / buttons)

If we have the list in WCAG, we can use the line at the top of the appendix (there now) to indicate the user-aspect, we can remove it from the SC text.


David wrote:
> ​Now if  we  ​want to address Jake's issue we could go with a variation of his text
>
> “In content implemented using technologies with support for identifying the expected meaning for elements, for each user-specific element that has a purpose that maps to any of the [link]list of common input fields,  the meaning of the element can be programmatically determined.”

I’d be happy with that, and combing those points would leave:

“In content implemented using technologies with support for identifying the expected meaning for elements, for each element that has a purpose that maps to any of the [link]list of common input fields,  the meaning of the element can be programmatically determined.”
(Removing user-specific)

Cheers,

-Alastair


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